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chopper
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Posted: September 23 2016 at 10:14 |
Kingsnake wrote:
When you're repeating what you've alreay done? When you're walking a road already travelled, how in earth can that be called progressive? Tales from Topographic Oceans might be a good, solid album, but not progressive. Yes just continued to do, what they already did.
I would say that Fragile pushed the envelope much more. There was far more experimentation on that album. Just my 2 cents. |
That's kind of what I was saying about The Yes Album, and Fragile was another big step forward with the addition of Mr Wakeman.
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TheDankCookie
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Posted: September 23 2016 at 08:59 |
Close to the Edge or Relayer
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Posted: September 22 2016 at 21:33 |
I would say Fragile.
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dwill123
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Posted: September 22 2016 at 17:10 |
Close to the Edge
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Kingsnake
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Posted: September 22 2016 at 05:33 |
When you're repeating what you've alreay done? When you're walking a road already travelled, how in earth can that be called progressive? Tales from Topographic Oceans might be a good, solid album, but not progressive. Yes just continued to do, what they already did.
I would say that Fragile pushed the envelope much more. There was far more experimentation on that album. Just my 2 cents.
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Posted: September 22 2016 at 04:57 |
It might be the most ridiculous input to this discussion, but, in my opinion, the most progressive Yes' album would be the 2001's, often oversight and underrated "Magnification". If "Close to the Edge" can be perceived as Yes' "Alpha" then the "Magnification" could be their "Omega", neatly closing their discography (I know there were other issues after the "Magnification", but..). Anderson's vocals are really settled on "Magnification", marking, sort of, an ultimate progression and also there are many "musical interlinks" to the "Close to the Edge", if you listen carefully. Fitting tribute to their early (and successful) orchestral experiences
Edited by Darious - September 29 2016 at 04:44
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chopper
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Posted: September 22 2016 at 04:11 |
Probably TFTO but for "progression" you could argue a case for The Yes Album and the leap from its predecessor when Steve Howe joined.
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Posted: September 22 2016 at 03:10 |
'Close' 'Tales' and 'Relayer' - I can't separate them. I can't help also thinking that if Moraz had stayed for at least another album, that would also be added....
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Son.of.Tiresias
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Posted: September 22 2016 at 01:35 |
"Tales from Topographic Oceans" in 1973 marks the pinnacle of Prog Rock Double Album Concept. If added the Soon section they would had reached TOTAL perfection in melody & harmony, and therefore in everything. The Best Yes Roger Dean Cover as well
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Quinino
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Posted: July 14 2016 at 14:12 |
^ Absolutely !
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: July 14 2016 at 14:10 |
Topographic. End of story
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comascape
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Posted: July 14 2016 at 14:06 |
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I would pick Relayer. | ditto
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aglasshouse
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Posted: July 14 2016 at 12:05 |
Close to the Edge or Fragile.
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grantman
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Posted: July 14 2016 at 11:51 |
Close to the edge has lightness to it, lot of harmonics placed though out ,I find this most a pleasurable sense of calm to the listener ,I do not find instruments crashing into each other, easy on the ears. Maybe Im just too sensitive but to each their own, or am I just getting old.
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verslibre
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Posted: July 14 2016 at 11:16 |
I do consider TFTO one of Yes' finest moments, as well. Time to revisit that opus!
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moshkito
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Posted: July 14 2016 at 10:06 |
Hi,
TFTO is the most progressive, in that its changes are enormous and its movements are exemplary to what the "definition" of progressive music is.
I think that "Relayer" was a reaction to the critics on TFTO and the long piece was an intentional assault, and then concluded with a really soft piece for contrast -- on the LP. I always thought that this was how YES originally thought of the critics.
CTTE is their best known and famous (other than Roundabout), but in many ways, not really as progressive as TFTO, although certainly more readily open to the ear, than something so different as TFTO. Not many fans go around whistling parts of TFTO, while you and I can probably easily hum along with CTTE. That just tells you the fame side of it, not the composition side of it.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: July 13 2016 at 14:06 |
I'd say Tales just over Relayer.
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Posted: July 13 2016 at 13:59 |
I remember first listening to Gates of Delerium in 1978 for the first time. It blew my mind away, and I still regard the whole album as one of the epitome's of progressive music.
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Posted: July 13 2016 at 13:37 |
Based on the question's wording, Topographic Oceans easily took their adventurous progressive tendencies further than anything that came before it, much of which was quite melodious and hummable with repetitive choruses and such. Only Relayer rivals TO in any serious way.
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verslibre
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Posted: July 13 2016 at 13:13 |
Tie between CTTE & Relayer.
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