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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2010 at 09:48
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by friso friso wrote:

I'm 22 and I only listen to late sixties and seventies prog. I simply can't get into modern prog since I really love the sound of vinyls and the seventies sound. My parents didn't influence me at all in becoming a proggy. I downloaded Arena's Contagion due to a metal-magazine and slowly grew into the classic prog after downloading (as a leap of faith) the KC debut. I now own over 300 vinyls of prog and prog-related. It has become my major hobby next to playing guitar.

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Originally posted by friso friso wrote:

I'm 22 and I only listen to late sixties and seventies prog. I simply can't get into modern prog since I really love the sound of vinyls and the seventies sound. My parents didn't influence me at all in becoming a proggy. I downloaded Arena's Contagion due to a metal-magazine and slowly grew into the classic prog after downloading (as a leap of faith) the KC debut. I now own over 300 vinyls of prog and prog-related. It has become my major hobby next to playing guitar.

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I  had a few drinks at a local gathering of adults age 40 to 60. I was asked what kind of music I listened to and like a fool I said Hatfield and the North. This guy turned and asked...."Hatfield and the North?" Who's that? Bobby Hatfield from the Righteous Brothers and Jay North from Dennis the Menace? I thought well..the world hasn't really changed all that much has it?LOL  

Greenslade? What's that? A crayon company? Prog is such a far away conversation unless, you run into fanatics at Nearfest. Some people in the past have asked me..."But Aren't you living in the 70's? So all the emphasis in dealing with bozo's like this is put upon a time period which a musical style derived from. This is a shrude mentality. You have to consider the source and walk away. But, being 53, you would somehow think maybe people have grown up by now?

I have to admit that it surprises me. Like the bully that picks on you in school, grows a little, tells you he is sorry and becomes your friend for life. You might assume that life could be that way in many senses. Like,...I used to make fun of band's like King Crimson but, now that I'm older, maybe I should bend an ear and see if I didn't miss out on something. But guess what? Most people do not think that way about music. It's truly a stupied way to think and feel. People like this are closing off the educational aspect to music. Yet, they refuse to do that with sports. In sports they know all the ball players names, all their moves, history etc. From this particular example of a breed of people you can gather that the average individual in society does not live and breath music as a whole. So,..I'm 53 and still crossing paths with people who are questionable on the subject and present foul attitudes. It's best to remain alone and have no dealings with anyone in particular.   
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I'm 22 and I only listen to late sixties and seventies prog. I simply can't get into modern prog since I really love the sound of vinyls and the seventies sound. My parents didn't influence me at all in becoming a proggy. I downloaded Arena's Contagion due to a metal-magazine and slowly grew into the classic prog after downloading (as a leap of faith) the KC debut. I now own over 300 vinyls of prog and prog-related. It has become my major hobby next to playing guitar.
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I'm nearly 64 - cue song - but many clues to my popular musical  tastes can be found at:
and the mix of tracks on random play coming found  my 80 gig IPod today (which has less than 10 complete albums
on it):
1. Alan Pasqua: Wicked Good (ex. The Anti-social Club)
2. Peter Banks: Swamp Report (ex. Instinct)
3. Primus: Camelback Cinema (ex. Brown Album)
4. Michael Shrieve: Sam The Man (ex. Fascination)
5. Herbie Hancock: Mercy Street (ex. The New Standard)
6. The Chambers Brother: Time Has Come Today (ex. The Time Has Come)
7. Sloan: She Says What She Means (ex. A Sides Win)
8. Joe Cocker: Delta Lady (ex. Mad Dogs & Englishmen)
9. Eric Clapton: Reconsider Baby (ex. From The Cradle)
10. The Fourth Way: The Sun & Moon Have Come Together (ex. The Sun & Moon Have Come Together)
11. Starcastle: Shadows Of Songs (ex. Citadel)
12. Dissident: Black Swan (ex. Dead Line)
13. Trio Beyond: Spectrum (ex. Saudades)
14. Cliff Richard & The Drifters: You're So Square (ex. Cliff!)
15. Don Ellis Orchestra: House In The Country (ex. The New Don Ellis Band Goes Underground) 16. Omar & The Howlers: I'm Wild About You (ex. Courts Of Lulu)
17. Abraxas Pool: Szabo (ex. Abraxas Pool)
18. Kevin Coyne: Marjory Razorblade (ex. Marjory Razorblade)
19. Elliot Freedman Group: Trajectum (ex. The Elliot Freedman Group)
20. Wishbone Ash: Phoenix (ex. Wishbone Ash)

1. Pallas: Arrive Alive (ex. The Sentinel)
2. Jon Hassell: Brussels (ex. The Surgeon Of The Nightsky Restores Dead Things)
3. Specimen 37: Helix (ex. The Endless Looping)
4. Conrad Schrenk & Extravaganza: The Air Of December (ex. Save The Robots)
5. Kollective with Jonas Hellberg: Bold (ex. Kollectiv)
6. King Crimson: Lament (ex. Starless & Bible Black)
7. Duster Bennett: I've Go To Be With You Tonight (ex. Jumpin' At Shadows)
8. Van Morrison, Lonnie Donnegan, Chris Barber: Midnight Special (ex. The Skiffle Sessions)
9. Kimara Sajn: Aila's Song (ex. Life Stories)
10. Mouse On The Keys: Seiren (ex. An Anxious Object)
11. Robin Trower: Chase The Bone (ex. 20th Century Blues)
12. David Byrne: Girls On My Mind (ex. Hanging Upside Down)
13. Stanley Trio with Hiromi: Solar (ex. Jazz In The Garden)
14. Joe Satriani: Midnight (ex. Surfing With the Alien)
15. Mats Morgan Band: Not Us (ex. Thanks For Flying With Us)
16. Dr Z: Evil Woman's Manly Child (ex. Time Machine)
17. Le Grand Nebuleux: Manali (ex. Les Pirates Du Cortex)
18. John Surman: The Wizard's Son (ex. Private City)
19. Fragment 37: Fugue In C (ex. Kitchen Sink)
20. Surinder Sandhu/Steve Vai: Children Of The Sand (ex. Saurang Orchestra)

Basically I continue to listen out for new  music that literally progresses (definitely a challenge today compared with 1969-1972), whilst I only dip back to listen to a few favourites from the distant past of traditional progressive music (and pop).
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Points: 5160 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2010 at 08:27

I'm 44 and I stay a music lover although unfortunately I can not dedicate as much time or energy to music as I did when I was younger.

I try to stay open to new music although I must admit that for the most part what I like the most remains around my comfort zone of symphonic, fusion, heavy rock, eclectic, RPI... things like Spock's B, Neal Morse, Karmakanic, TFK, Beardfish, Simon Says and stuff like that, and sometimes leaning to a bit more alternative such as PT, The Mars Volta etc. I'm not into avant, post-rock, electronic or excessively experimental music though.

As for Metal I like the most symphonic corner of it, quite some DT, Ayreon, Pain of Salvation, Shadow Gallery and so on, but not too extreme (and I could not get comfortable with growlings yet...).

In terms of listening minutes I would say that currently I listen to more modern prog that 70's, simply because every new albums takes quite some listens to get to know it, while revisiting a classic takes just one listen. But I still listen regularly to 70's and 80's albums, there are so many that very few of them get played more than once in 2 years or so.

Even if I find many interesting things in the new prog I must confess that I'm one of those who (at the risk of generalising) when it comes to pure inspiration and brilliance I still think that the classics have the edge.



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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

I look forward to the day when we're all in the retirement homes & instead of local do-gooders coming round in the afternoon with their acoustic guitars & singing old music hall songs, instead we get Genesis tribute bands dragging dusty Mellotrons into the dining room just before the nirses come around with the drugs trolley
 
I look forward to the nurses coming round. Big smile
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I look forward to the day when we're all in the retirement homes & instead of local do-gooders coming round in the afternoon with their acoustic guitars & singing old music hall songs, instead we get Genesis tribute bands dragging dusty Mellotrons into the dining room just before the nirses come around with the drugs trolley

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I'm 49 and have been a prog fan since I was 13, however I listen to lots of other music genres as well (as long as it's not country). I listen to a fair bit of "old"prog (Yes and Genesis etc) but also lots of new stuff (Tinyfish, Manning, Transatlantic, Opeth etc).
 
It struck me at a recent Genesis tribute gig that fans of this type of music (at least, fans of the original albums) are now in their 50s and 60s (and more), so I reckon prog is the new classical.
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2010 at 06:27
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Latest discovery? Rodrigo y Gabriella marvellous!

Saw R y G at Lattitude a couple of years back - it's amazing how many indie teens know the words to Wish You Were Here - quite a goose-bump moment. Approve
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What's an iTouch? Sounds like an MP3 player for pervs...
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I'm 47 years old & about 35 years into my music appreciation.

Music has always been a huge part of my life & I hope will continue to remain so; my all time favorites will remain (I guess) the classic prog albums of the 'classic' years of the 1970s, but I am always open to new music & still discovering.

Prog & (to coin a phrase) classic rock will always be my favorite, but electronica, psy-trance, classical, opera, jazz, world, folk all have their places on my iTouch & are played regularly - although I do have to say, the band which keeps coming back again & again on the iTouch (especially in the car, where I can listen as loud as I like) are System Of A Down WHOOOOAAARRRRGH!!!! (etc)

Latest discovery? Rodrigo y Gabriella marvellous!

Must go now, the nurse is coming round with my medication...

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Originally posted by cobb2 cobb2 wrote:

After reading all this I have had a bit of an epiphany about my observations of peers and oldies who like prog (of whom I don't personally know any).
Proggies were trained early to search for new music (this was even harder before the digital age- endless trips to records shops etc), while the greater masses of music fans (the U2, Bon Jovi lovers) had it fed to them through the media, so they never learned how to search.
So, the searchers were more open to music they had never heard and this becomes a life long trait, while the spoon fed, non-searchers, were left listening to music that they could no longer relate to- commercial music is, after all, written to target the youth.
Does this make sense?

Yes! This does make sense!Clap Sites like PA and CDBaby, etc. have allowed me to find music that I never would have been exposed to. A little time spent searching has become more interesting music to enjoy! Thumbs Up
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Mid 40s and have loved prog for years. My experience with prog has made me into a decent writer too about the subject. So thats my obssession now in my older years translated onto a forum. Who saw that coming? I am amazed at where this has taken me and delighted to share some of my passion with like-minded people.
 
 
 
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I'm 55 and have been a fan of prog since...well it's inception back in the late 1960's. I love listening to the Bands of the "classic" era, but as I am a music fan who is open to new directions in prog music, I have become quite enamoured with the later offerings over the last 10 years. I was excited to discover groups such as Porcupine Tree, Glass Hammer, Nightwish and Ayreon. This lead me to Progarchives and further exploration of bands that I previously had no idea existed and genres that I had paid little attention to, for example, Kraut Rock, Progressive Metal, Zeuhl and Canterbury. I really love the way, Prog Rock has captured the attention of younger fans, that I have met through this site and how it has once again spurred the interests of "oldies" like my-self, whose vision of Prog rock music was becoming a bit staid and purely 70's focused. I can only see good things for my favourite music and I will continue to explore it for the foreseable future. Smile

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At  57 my new music appreciation level is fast approaching saturation point, where "modern"music including Pop and Prog really give me the feeling i've heard it all before, though Muse turned out to be something of a revelation and burst out into to the mass market, and The Mars Volta were a new sound but very few have even heard of them. 
 
I am always interested to listen to new stuff, though difficult to add to the several hundred bands i'm already into - sometimes i'd rather concentrate on the ones i've got, there are just not enough hours in the day...
 
Modern Pop music uses the same structures and simple phrases it has always done since the 50's, I would rather listen to the early stuff not clones, Prog still borrows heavily from the old guys, everything seems to go round in circles and no sign of any breakthrough new sound so far...in the 60's every year introduced  totally new sounds and styles, these days everything just goes round in  the tumble dryer...Ermm
 
"New"  music has to jump out and bite my ass before i really take notice of it, there are a lot of good new bands around, but  i'm still busy catching up on the old ones i missed !
 
 
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After reading all this I have had a bit of an epiphany about my observations of peers and oldies who like prog (of whom I don't personally know any).
Proggies were trained early to search for new music (this was even harder before the digital age- endless trips to records shops etc), while the greater masses of music fans (the U2, Bon Jovi lovers) had it fed to them through the media, so they never learned how to search.
So, the searchers were more open to music they had never heard and this becomes a life long trait, while the spoon fed, non-searchers, were left listening to music that they could no longer relate to- commercial music is, after all, written to target the youth.
Does this make sense?
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Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

Originally posted by Bea Bea wrote:

no - in fact - I want to come listen to albums with you - with a few good bottles of wine. WinkThumbs Up


just not the Gristle k? I know I'm missing a boat hear - but I just don't get it. Embarrassed
Wow! Thanks for the support! I'm like a little kid with this. Some people in the past have said that I am like a child. With the Throbbing Gristle stuff?,...I have a strange mind set with all of that. Both bands T.G. and The Residents remind me of bands that Frank Zappa would have signed to Straight Records in the early 70's. Only certain tracks from their studio releases appeal to me. I have a hard time taking them seriously and have to be in the mood for dark humour. Forget the Gristle. We can listen to everything but that. Wink 

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60 years old. I will listen to anything on this site. What was I saying?
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