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Posted: April 12 2014 at 16:31

Ronnie Pilgrim wrote:

...and when Goldiprog listened to The Wall she sighed, and said "this Floyd is too self-indulgent and depressing." Then, when Goldiprog heard Wish You Were Here she laughed, and exclaimed "this Floyd is too disjointed and commercial." But when Goldiprog played Animals she smiled, and pronounced "this Floyd is just right!"

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 16:29

...and when Goldiprog listened to The Wall she sighed, and said "this Floyd is too self-indulgent and depressing." Then, when Goldiprog heard Wish You Were Here she laughed, and exclaimed "this Floyd is too disjointed and commercial." But when Goldiprog played Animals she smiled, and pronounced "this Floyd is just right!"

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 15:35

Dean wrote:

Aminals presaged 80s Stadium Rock, all it lacked was power ballads, sing-a-long choruses and an over-abundance of Spandex™

It did however, have a pig.

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But was it pink?

At least at Anaheim Stadium it was very good. Compared to the bootleg version of "Pigs" at Anaheim stadium it has an extended guitar part that might be considered a power ballad. Sort of! But the background singers did have Spandex, and about that sing-a-long, we might have to define that a bit better!

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 07:54

Animals is a dark album, but it's a masterpiece. Not as easy to get into as the Wall or Wish You Were Here, but I think it is better than the former while not quite as good as the latter. Certainly worth the effort it takes to truly understand and enjoy it.

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 07:35

smartpatrol wrote:

No, Animals is fantastic, and my opinion is fact. Case closed

Couldn't have said it better friend.

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 07:00

Rihanna wrote:

I cant just appreciate it as you other, Dogs are nearly boring.

I quite like the idea of a song being nearly boring.

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 06:09

I gonna try Animals again sometime maybe today.

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 05:54

HolyMoly wrote:

I wish you could see through our eyes and hear through our ears so you could understand why we hold this album in such high regard. As it is, you've got your own eyes and ears, and hear things the way you hear them. Nothing wrong about that. Enjoy what thou may.

Very well said!!

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 05:48

I think Dogs was better when it was You've Gotta Be Crazy - especially the end section.

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 05:36

Rihanna wrote:

I see all love Animals, I think its only a good album, not a masterpiece as Dark Side Of The Moon, WYWH and The Wall.

The songs are from awesome to only okay, Sheep is a masterpiece the rest are good to decent. Wow i dont see the greatness all gives it, its not my favorite from Pink Floyd.

I like the album but it is just maybe a strong 7/10.

Totally agree. Doesn't deserve to be in the top 10. "Dogs" is good for a few minutes, but gets boring, and don't like how it ends with slightly worse lyrics than how it began Tongue

Not many of the attractive qualities of Pink Floyd are present here (everything that makes Dark Side great) but otherwise some fantastic moments. Like you it would a 7, erring on 8/10 album.

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 05:24

The guitar tone on this album, especially on Sheep, has that big heavy metal feel though the riffs are not actually all that metal-like.

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 05:23

OK, got it now. And if I am not mistaken, Waters actually drew up some animal figures while writing this album? So maybe he planned to have these airborne pigs on the gig all along?

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 05:16

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Dean: That's intriguing. Any specific stadium rock songs you are thinking of that resemble Animals? I would have thought WYWH (the song) had more stadium rock potential than anything on Animals.

Its the whole album as an epic Rock album rather than any of the individual tracks resembling the anthemic format of 80s stadium rock songs. There were many bands in the 70s filling stadiums but they were playing versions of studio tracks that would play just as well in a small venue as in large arenas, and that includes DSotM and WYWH (if you ignore the stage performance and just listen to the albums). Given that two of the tracks on Animals were written before WYWH, Aminals (in my contention) was one of the first albums that Floyd produced specifically to be played in large venues. The composition and production of the album just has that stadium rock feel for me.

WYWH (song) is certainly a stadium rock song and has that sing-a-long, lighters-held-aloft chorus but it didn't actually feature in the accompanying 1975 tour at all (though two pre-Animals tracks Raving and Drooling (Sheep) You've Got to Be Crazy (Dogs) did).

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 04:56

On another note, not only does Animals have some of Gilmour's most awesome guitar work, it has some of his most convincing vocal performances. As I listen now to Dogs (damn this thread!), his voice has all the bite and menace Waters is associated with except stronger still.

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 04:52

Dean: That's intriguing. Any specific stadium rock songs you are thinking of that resemble Animals? I would have thought WYWH (the song) had more stadium rock potential than anything on Animals.

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 04:44

^ I never witnessed that (ain't a big Floyd fan alas)

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 04:42

ExittheLemming wrote:

Notwithstanding the figure hugging porcine strides, surely any subsequent stadium rock that didn't have power ballads and sing a long choruses would be deemed an abject failure? (Do you mean the visual extravagance of the live shows that Floyd put on presaged the scale of stadium rock etc?)

I mean musically. The 1977 stadium-filling In The Flesh tour is secondary (though it did have its Spinal Tap moments).

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 04:41

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Aminals presaged 80s Stadium Rock, all it lacked was power ballads, sing-a-long choruses and an over-abundance of Spandex™

It did however, have a pig.

It was, ironically, this album's tour which would lead to Waters writing the Wall, and eschewing completely stadium rock.

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 04:35

Dean wrote:

Aminals presaged 80s Stadium Rock, all it lacked was power ballads, sing-a-long choruses and an over-abundance of Spandex™

It did however, have a pig.

Notwithstanding the figure hugging porcine strides, surely any subsequent stadium rock that didn't have power ballads and sing a long choruses would be deemed an abject failure? (Do you mean the visual extravagance of the live shows that Floyd put on presaged the scale of stadium rock etc?)

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Posted: April 12 2014 at 04:07

Aminals presaged 80s Stadium Rock, all it lacked was power ballads, sing-a-long choruses and an over-abundance of Spandex™

It did however, have a pig.

What?