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Poll Question: Do you think Prog Metal exists?
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Prog Metal does exist. Withouut Opeth's progressive touch they would be just another death metal band. The prog side of metal makes the band that much better.
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Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

'Scuse me, what makes you say that Megadeth are not prog and Maiden are? And of course we're talking about "Sad Wings of Destiny", not of "Painkiller"...Wink As to Rush, I didn't say anywhere that they CREATED Prog-Metal - just that they were a big influence on both Queensryche and DT.
 
 
 
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you ask if prog metal exists...

the answer is as simple as answering the question:

"Do you breathe?"
    

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Haha, I missed this thread originally and have been quite amused by reading back through it.

Oh, and regarding the discussion that took place on the last page about who the first prog-metal band was, Watchtower's Energetic Disassembly came out in 1985, before Maiden's supposed prog-metal album Seventh Son of a Seventh Son, before it had occured to Queensryche to play anything other than slightly above average hair metal, and even just before the genre's equally underrated co-founders Mekong Delta had sprung into existence.  Since having this thread here is going to prove pretty pointless in the next little while, I figured I'd just get that out of the way.
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Originally posted by Bryan Bryan wrote:

Haha, I missed this thread originally and have been quite amused by reading back through it.Oh, and regarding the discussion that took place on the last page about who the first prog-metal band was, Watchtower's Energetic Disassembly came out in 1985, before Maiden's supposed prog-metal album Seventh Son of a Seventh Son, before it had occured to Queensryche to play anything other than slightly above average hair metal, and even just before the genre's equally underrated co-founders Mekong Delta had sprung into existence.  Since having this thread here is going to prove pretty pointless in the next little while, I figured I'd just get that out of the way.

    

"Rage For Order" was progressive metal in its own unique way... it took almost a decade for the fans to appreciate, whatever that means...
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Of course it does.. denying it sounds rather snobbish to me.. Embarrassed
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Prog metal exists, of course. But a lot of bands, qualified by PA as "prog metal bands", aren't progressive, aren't prog metal bands, especially Death, Edge Of Sanity or Rhapsody. I have been listening to heavy, thrash, death, black metal since 1987 and I don't think - for instance - EoS is prog metal band...
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Originally posted by MattiR MattiR wrote:

Prog metal exists, of course. But a lot of bands, qualified by PA as "prog metal bands", aren't progressive, aren't prog metal bands, especially Death, Edge Of Sanity or Rhapsody. I have been listening to heavy, thrash, death, black metal since 1987 and I don't think - for instance - EoS is prog metal band...
 
 
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Originally posted by Trickster F. Trickster F. wrote:

[QUOTE=MattiR]Prog metal exists, of course. But a lot of bands, qualified by PA as "prog metal bands", aren't progressive, aren't prog metal bands, especially Death, Edge Of Sanity or Rhapsody. I have been listening to heavy, thrash, death, black metal since 1987 and I don't think - for instance - EoS is prog metal band...
 
 
Have you heard Crimson II?

Yes. Do you remember our conversation in topic about genres? Smile


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Originally posted by MattiR MattiR wrote:

Prog metal exists, of course. But a lot of bands, qualified by PA as "prog metal bands", aren't progressive, aren't prog metal bands, especially Death, Edge Of Sanity or Rhapsody. I have been listening to heavy, thrash, death, black metal since 1987 and I don't think - for instance - EoS is prog metal band...
Crimson, Crimson II, Symbolic, The Sound of Preservence. These are not normal metal albums and if you look in the right places you can see that "prog touch" to them :[

(although I agree with you on Rhapsody :p)
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Originally posted by MajesterX MajesterX wrote:

It seems there is an endless debate on whether or not Prog Metal exists.

 If you ask a modern prog or metal fan, they would say yes.

If you asked a person who doesn't listen to anything outside of the 70's, they would probably say no.

So, in an attempt to end all debates, what do you think?


Well, your post already contains the answer.Wink
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Of course 'Prog-Metal' exists, in (at least) as much as it has been 'defined' into existence.
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Originally posted by MattiR MattiR wrote:

Prog metal exists, of course. But a lot of bands, qualified by PA as "prog metal bands", aren't progressive, aren't prog metal bands, especially Death, Edge Of Sanity or Rhapsody. I have been listening to heavy, thrash, death, black metal since 1987 and I don't think - for instance - EoS is prog metal band...
 
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does it exist - yes

is it good - no
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I roadied for several bands in the S.F. metal scene during the early 80s and the term 'progressive metal' was just starting to be batted about. Back then it referred to a metal band with progressive leanings and though it has become a category, it's still metal with progressive leanings. Yes, it exists.
    

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Of course it exists. I don't see why people think that metal can't be progressive. Jazz can be progressive. Rock can be progressive. Electronica can be progressive. Folk can be progressive. Why can't metal be?
In my opinion Progressive Metal is the best prog subgenre there is. But thats because i like loud music. Some people don't. Just because you don't like a style of music or a band doesn't mean it's not progressive.
Shadow Gallery is so horrible and boring it makes me want to puke, but i'm not going to argue when someone tells me it is progressive.


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