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I've raved at how much I despise" Passion Play" before, so I won't repeat.

That being said, I find Warchild to be the final lurch into the downward spiral for Jethro Tull. "Songs" and "Horses" aside, Tull never recovered from the heady days of "Brick". It was a different era, Tull was weak, the inspiration was gone. This was Warchild. Hit and miss is the kindest comment to paste on this old player, and further releases.
In ever decreasing circles can Jethro's career be plotted from this very point.
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Points: 65864 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2006 at 03:22
Mmmaaaybee, Witchie, but in hindsight all Tull up to about 1980 was great. And 'Passion Play' KICKS, baby, KICKS!
    

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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

All you need for music is a good ear and a passion for it.

BTW-- If you like Warchild I assume you also appreciate Benefit and Minstrel, as they're both rockin, too.
    
    
 
Each of those albums contains one of my personal favorite Tull songs...With You There to Help Me and Minstrel, arguably the finest Tull song ever. At least, the hardest rockin, and that's more than enough to win me over.
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Points: 7113 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2006 at 03:28
Originally posted by Witchwoodhermit Witchwoodhermit wrote:

I've raved at how much I despise" Passion Play" before, so I won't repeat.

That being said, I find Warchild to be the final lurch into the downward spiral for Jethro Tull. "Songs" and "Horses" aside, Tull never recovered from the heady days of "Brick". It was a different era, Tull was weak, the inspiration was gone. This was Warchild. Hit and miss is the kindest comment to paste on this old player, and further releases.
In ever decreasing circles can Jethro's career be plotted from this very point.
 
I take it you didn't like Minstrel?
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Minstral was GOOD. not brilliant. Empty spaces and filler are the largest bites I took from MITG. Especially side two.
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Side two *is* a little touch-and-go but the first side is top-notch heavy prog. And let's not forget 'Living in the Past'.
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Living in the Past is a compo. Pre Brick. We speak post. Keep up bro. :)
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Points: 65864 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2006 at 03:55
"Pre-Brick" or not I don't see it mentioned much, and don't try to bait me, 'bro'.
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Points: 2747 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2006 at 03:57
i dont like the album cover design
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R o V e R-- if you mean for 'Warchild', I've never liked it either. I actually prefer the photo of the boys in costume...would've made a better cover me thinks. If you speak of LitP, I like the faux-leathered look.
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Points: 2747 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2006 at 04:01
i mean Warchild
i dont like the design
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No bait. Wrong thought.
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Top Tull Albums:
 
1)Thick as a Brick
2)Minstrel in the Gallery
3)A Passion Play
4)Aqualung
 
After this, they start to digress.  These albums are all good, but not great, and I don't know how to place them:
 
The Broadsword and the Beast
Heavy Horses
Warchild
Songs from the Wood
Stand Up
Benefit
Too Old to Rock 'N' Roll, Too Young to Die
Stormwatch
Crest of a Knave
J-Tull Dot Com
 
And these ones were just bad:
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Under Wraps
 
The rest I don't know too well.  Warchild is not likely to make my top ten, if I had to do it (after I explored the albums in the middle a bit more).
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Points: 65864 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2006 at 15:25
'Heavy Horses' is terrific. So is 'Songs', 'Benefit' and 'Warchild'. If you don't like any of those four records you may not be a true Tull fan, or haven't matured enough to appreciate them.
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Points: 167 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2006 at 17:22
I'm not a huge Tull fan, but Warchild is my favourite JT album Thumbs Up
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Points: 7113 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2006 at 02:39
Hey! A rocked! Er, as long as you quit listening after Black Sunday, and mostly just skipped over to the DVD of Slipstream.
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Points: 65864 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2006 at 02:47
Whistler-- Y'know, I saw Tull for the 'Under Wraps' tour (1983?) and though, at that time, I knew next to nothing about them, I remember the show being very good though the new material may have been lacking. Tull seems to be a band that is comfortable just playing-- old stuff, new stuff, it was just a good show because of their chemistry and long history. Have you seen the band yet? Their stage show has gotten quite understated and relaxed- very nice, and they usually draw an older, more relaxed crowd.
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Sorta...I was part of the Ian Anderson plays some Orchestral Jethro Tull tour. It was pretty sweet (personal moment: when Ian was playing Eurology, and hobbled up on one leg for the first time in the performance, I started clapping my hands off, and I started a clap!)

Anyway, just had to brag 'bout that. It seems to me, based on that experience (the whole show, not just the clap), and the various live performances I have uncovered, you cannot see a bad Tull concert. You can see an average one--but even if Martin Barre's guitar caught on fire, or the interchangeable keyboardist forgot the opening to Locomotive Breath, Ian would make some witty stage banter out of it.
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Originally posted by Witchwoodhermit Witchwoodhermit wrote:

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Minstral was GOOD. not brilliant. Empty spaces and filler are the largest bites I took from MITG. Especially side two.
 
Alright, fair cop. One White Duck drags on longer than need be, and the time spent making an eighteen minute suite would have been better invested in a couple of serious songs, but you can't deny Grace!
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The original album of 10 songs would only get a 7/10. A bit disappointing. The album has too many songs that sound over cheerful and some of the lyrics are a bit embarrasing. But this album was made as a soundtrack to a movie which didn't eventuate. So you have to ask if these 10 songs were typical Tull songs or were they songs written by the band for a movie. If there was no movie or soundtrack you wonder if the band would have ever written some of those songs, because they don't all sound like true Tull songs. The reason I don't think of them as Tull songs is because the 7 bonus tracks do sound like true Tull songs of much better quality. They just sound like typical heavy medievil prog and acoustic songs a bit like the Aqualung songs. These 1974 songs are the ones I think are true of the band and would have made a very good album
 
BONUS TRACKS:

Warchild waltz

Paradise steakhouse
quartet
Sealion 2

Rainbow blues

saturation
Glory row
March the mad scientist
 
BEST ORIGINAL ALBUM TRACKS:
queen and country
warchild
only solitaire
skating away
 
There is also a beter version of Bungle in the jungle. It is the 
Bungle in the jungle-remix on the 25th box set
 
 
 
 
 


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