Chicks and Prog

Fritha wrote: domizia wrote: If you want a prog chick's 2 cents, I am always complaining about this when me and husband go to prog shows and meet the usual 20-30 other prog friends: not only I'm always the only female there, which is dead boring, but everyone tend to assume that I'm completely uninterested to the show, music and such. I have to say, my experiences at shows have always been completely different. Men tend to be genuinely curious and are willing to strike a conversation just to get the story behind my prog hobby, lol. Last May I went to a prog event here in Helsinki and chatted to a fellow male progger there, who was so happy to meet a female prog fan that he literally hugged me when we parted I only had to list some of my favourite bands and his eyes would lit up with delight and he would have that disbelieving look on his face. "You mean to tell me that you actually like KING CRIMSON?! Unbelievable..." Heheh, it's kinda sweet because these men are usually genuinely taken aback by a woman, who professes to know something about Bill Bruford's drumming style.

rudderhead wrote: There's nothing wrong with calling a woman a chick. Its a compliment its like the female version of a dude Its a sign that youre cool. I also call my girlfriends chicks and they call themselves chicks. So no problem with that

man... you have a lot to learn about women

Hopefully I'm not repeating anything from the 8 pages so far. But I remember a post on an old thread about why certain people (male or female) don't appreciate or have any interest in prog.
Anyways, this one post suggested that too often the prog fan will "inflict" the most hardcore prog on a non-fan, rather than just playing something that the other person might like, or even find that it shares similarities with their non-prog tastes.
It was also mentioned that omitting the fact that the music you're playing for them is prog doesn't hurt either.
This would be so to not conjure up any prejudices or stereotypes.
TO summarize, you may love Magma, Amon Duul, Yezda Urfa, et al. But even within the prog world, these groups enjoy a limited & fanatic following, as their music is not meant for everyone. If you start with , say, something from  Supertramp's Crime of the Century, then segue into some Gentle Giant from Free Hand like Just The Same, follow it with Genesis' More Fool Me, then Genesis' I Know What I Like; maybe play Floyd's Wish You Were Here, take a track from Stackridge's debut, and so on ... you may find that once your "mainstream listening friend", female or not, might be more open minded to prog once you tell them that this is what you were just playing for them.
How many metalheads got into prog by starting with Rush. There are surely people out there that worked backwards from the Collins era Genesis to Gabriel's time with the band. It's just a matter of finding the wedge, instead of using the hammer. I am more open to RIO because I started listening to Univers Zero, thinking that it was "chamber" prog.

P.S. just thought of an analogy - think of it as the musical equivalent of telling someone "this food/meat is good. It tastes just like chicken"


Edited by debrewguy - February 29 2008 at 18:31

I took my wife to a Porcupine Tree gig last year, and she loved it so much that she wanted to buy a hoodie.  However, she still won't play the CD's when we are driving along....

Oh well....

Ghost Rider wrote: I am one of the resident "chicks who love prog". My first prog album was bought at the age of 11.

I almost seriously replied to this thread. But then I read

MusicalSalmacis wrote: I'm 17 and I love prog, or music in general (Jazz, celtic, classical, hip-hop, ambient, metal, whatever) is my life and I have never met a chick who has taken music seriously. I hope I will one day though

and realized that there is no need to repeat the man with a higher number. If she hasn't been playing the violin since she was 3, there's a 99.999% chance she doesn't care about music. Music is just social and sexual (can you dance or f**k to it?).

//EDIT: And that's not to say men are really that much better; men just don't show off their bodies in motion like women. However, we're all social animals.


Edited by Gamemako - May 29 2008 at 19:22

CCVP wrote: tszirmay wrote: burritounit wrote: ProgressiveOpinion wrote: Sometimes I wish I were a female, who likes prog. That was totally weird.   Sounds very progressive , no?  New prog sub-genre alert=  transsexual prog . Now That's weird,   THAT was neither weird nor proggy. That was gay and that's it. Damn, if it is not enough not having women here now we have gay man. That sure sucks!

Judging by the audiences I see on most prog DVD's, most female prog fans are of the older lesbian variety.

poultry in general seems disinclined towards the more complex music out there

edit: don't care if someone made that joke already dammit, didn't bother to look


Edited by heyitsthatguy - May 29 2008 at 20:50

I don't even care about prog, I have enough trouble finding a female who likes decent music

edit: finding a female who will communicate with me


edit: finding a female who doesn't flee at my presence


Edited by heyitsthatguy - May 29 2008 at 20:59