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    Posted: August 13 2013 at 13:58
Which musicians died at the age of 26 or 28?  The so-called "27 Club" is a pile of poo, let's prove it by listing musicians that died at ages other than 27 (and let's list them by age at death)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2013 at 14:31
All of them died at ages other than 27 that aren't "in the club" or are still alive.

Edited by johnobvious - August 13 2013 at 14:32
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2013 at 14:33
The first to pop up in my mind is Nick Drake (26).
 
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Two more:
Jimmy McCulloch (Thunderclap Newman, 26)
John Glascock (Carmen/Jethro Tull, 28).


Edited by someone_else - August 13 2013 at 14:35
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2013 at 14:37
Tim Buckley was 28.
Keith Moon was 32.
John Bonham was 32.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2013 at 14:55
Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

  The so-called "27 Club" is a pile of poo

I'm sorry but what kind of an ignorant remark is that?? They were most certainly the opposite of that.
To degrade some of the most innovative artists in rock history is disgraceful.
What are you trying to prove with this thread exactly? Thumbs Down
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2013 at 19:12
Originally posted by Sagichim Sagichim wrote:

Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

  The so-called "27 Club" is a pile of poo

I'm sorry but what kind of an ignorant remark is that?? They were most certainly the opposite of that.
To degrade some of the most innovative artists in rock history is disgraceful.
What are you trying to prove with this thread exactly? Thumbs Down

I believe he's referring to the superstition that the best artists died at 27, that they're somehow validated by their death at a certain age.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2013 at 19:15
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Christopher Reimer (Women) — 26 years old
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2013 at 19:23
Originally posted by johnobvious johnobvious wrote:

All of them died at ages other than 27 that aren't "in the club" or are still alive.


Thank you, Mr. Obvious.  Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2013 at 08:17
Died at 21: Eddie Cochran, Sid Vicious
Died at 22: Buddy Holly, Aaliyah
Died at 23: Ian Curtis
Died at 24: Cliff Burton, Duane Allman, Notorious B.I.G., The Big Bopper
Died at 25: Randy Rhodes, Tupac Shakur, Tommy Bolin
Died at 26: Otis Redding, Gram Parsons, Nick Drake, Paul Kossoff
Died at 28: Steve Gaines, Tim Buckley
Died at 29: Cassie Gaines, Ronnie Van Zant, Hank Williams

Remember kids, dying at any age is not cool 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2013 at 12:04
Syd Barrett died at 60 years (though for all intents and purposes, he was gone for more than half that time).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2013 at 16:42
It's particularly hard to avoid the validity of the 27 Club when your favorite musician (Helmut Koellen) is unfortunately a member. A sad time to depart.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2013 at 00:20
Here's some from prog or closely related genres...

John Lennon - 40
BJ Wilson (Procol Harum) - 43
Frank Zappa - 52
George Harrison - 58
Nic Potter - 61
Peter Banks - 65
Captain Beefheart - 69
Ray Manzarek - 74
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2013 at 09:00
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

It's particularly hard to avoid the validity of the 27 Club when your favorite musician (Helmut Koellen) is unfortunately a member. A sad time to depart.


validity?

Also, do believers in the 27 Club hope and pray that their least favourites artistes survive well beyond that age.  Lady Gaga is 27 until late March next year, for example - you want her in your club?

Meanwhile, which is 'cooler' - great musicians dying aged 27, or great musicians making great music for many years after that age? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2013 at 12:01
Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:


Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

It's particularly hard to avoid the validity of the 27 Club when your favorite musician (Helmut Koellen) is unfortunately a member. A sad time to depart.
validity? Also, do believers in the 27 Club hope and pray that their least favourites artistes survive well beyond that age.  Lady Gaga is 27 until late March next year, for example - you want her in your club?Meanwhile, which is 'cooler' - great musicians dying aged 27, or great musicians making great music for many years after that age? 
Sorry, i think "validity" is the wrong word, i guess i think that "existence" might be a better term. Actually, i think it is just coincidence, really, that many musicians died at 27, and there are many that don't die at that age, as pointed out on this thread.
       It is not "my club", and i don't want Lady Gaga or anybody else to join it.
        There is nothing "cool" or "legit" about dying at 27, so i guess there is no validity to it. Still, Helmut being gone at that age is a real tragedy. And i guess i will always get a bit of a chill whenever i hear the term "27 Club".

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2013 at 14:29
Sid Vicious - Sex Pistols - 21
Billy Mackenzie - Associates - 39
Stuart Adamson - Skids, Big Country - 43
John McGeoch - Magazine, The Banshees - 48
Lee Brilleaux - Dr Feelgood - 41
Randy Rhoads - 25
Marc Bolan - 29
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart  - 35
Michael Hedges - 43
Kieran O'Connor - Secondhand, Chillum, Seventh Wave - ??
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2013 at 14:48
^I was lucky enough to have seen Ozzy WITH Randy Rhoads.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2013 at 16:33
I may be a bit late for the party and somewhat out of the question, but doesn't the appelation "Club of 27" refer to SOME musicians which death had been a trauma in the history of rock?
For years, I heard that the Club of 27 included: Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin and Jim Morrisson. End of the list, end of the story.
Not only there were only 4 musicians included in this macabre "chosen few", but they died between 1969 and 1971, like a totemic warning: "The 60's are closed, get off, go back to work, nothing more to see".

THEN, some few musicians were added: Kurt Cobain and... Huh, yeah, Amy Winehouse, appearing like the last ones of a breed born to die as shooting stars and symbols of... Well, the excesses of Sex, Drugs, Rock'n'Roll and God only knows what stupid legend about Rock'n'Roll that could be added to this tryptich.

Good grief, I must sound like the drunken hidden son of moshkito.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2013 at 08:28
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2013 at 07:17
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

I may be a bit late for the party and somewhat out of the question, but doesn't the appelation "Club of 27" refer to SOME musicians which death had been a trauma in the history of rock?
For years, I heard that the Club of 27 included: Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin and Jim Morrisson. End of the list, end of the story.
Not only there were only 4 musicians included in this macabre "chosen few", but they died between 1969 and 1971, like a totemic warning: "The 60's are closed, get off, go back to work, nothing more to see".

THEN, some few musicians were added: Kurt Cobain and... Huh, yeah, Amy Winehouse, appearing like the last ones of a breed born to die as shooting stars and symbols of... Well, the excesses of Sex, Drugs, Rock'n'Roll and God only knows what stupid legend about Rock'n'Roll that could be added to this tryptich.

Good grief, I must sound like the drunken hidden son of moshkito.

it wasn't a thing until 1994 when Kurt Cobain 'joined'.  People in 1971 weren't thinking that those 4 all died at the same age (woo spooky etc) at all.  They just died and it was sad.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2013 at 13:31
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:


Well, the excesses of Sex, Drugs, Rock'n'Roll and God only knows what stupid legend about Rock'n'Roll that could be added to this tryptich.
Sex, Drugs, Rock'n'Roll and Stupidity?
Sex, Drugs, Rock'n'Roll and Drowning in your own vomit?
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Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

it wasn't a thing until 1994 when Kurt Cobain 'joined'.  People in 1971 weren't thinking that those 4 all died at the same age (woo spooky etc) at all.  They just died and it was sad.  
Before 1994 was it called the J-club?
 
Lee Brilleaux died two days after Cobain and his death was somewhat overlooked by the music press at the time, which was shame.
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