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jude111 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 20 2009 Location: Not Here Status: Offline Points: 1754 |
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I know what you mean. He's made some phenomenal ambient pieces, particularly from his first two albums: Night Bus, Forgive, Endorphin, In McDonalds, Dog Shelter and UK. In fact, Forgive features a sample of Brian Eno's An Ending (Ascent), so clearly Burial's a fan of at least some ambient music. Over the years, I tried to think of what one major thing separates Burial from every other EDM artist, whether it's dubstep musicians or anything else. And what I've come up with is this: his rhythms never lock into a groove. Whereas every other EDM artist that I know pretty much puts their percussion sounds on a loop, with Burial it's always changing, always restless. I've paid close attention to his drum sounds, and I'm amazed that he never seems to loop it. He must spend a great amount of time working every bar of every piece. In that respect, then, I see his music as already being ambient in some sense. I know he came out of dubstep and was influenced by garage, but I see his music as transcending those genres and appealing to people with interests in neither.
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DisgruntledPorcupine ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2010 Location: Thunder Bay CAN Status: Offline Points: 4395 |
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Like I said earlier, I also find Burial puts a lot more emotion into each tune than others in his genre. In fact, it almost depresses me. It's a real feat to put a true sense of emotion in a genre often frowned upon for being cold, sterile, and lifeless.
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jude111 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 20 2009 Location: Not Here Status: Offline Points: 1754 |
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Yes, exactly. If I connect what you said and think about that in terms of what I wrote concerning his percussions, perhaps that's part and parcel - his drums are rarely machine-like, they have a warmth, they're often coated in a kind of fog and sound of rain/crackle, and are woozy and "off," tripping over each other, poly-rhythmic at times, never mechanical. A few other electronic artists might have emotion in their tune (Vangelis, perhaps? in Blade Runner, at any rate), but who has been able to do it working within the electronic dance genre? On the other hand, I've grown to really like the cold and sterile sound of some German techno; a sound i associate with the Kompakt label. There can be a real beauty in that. (For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR2tKN6wkxM)
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A Person ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 10 2008 Location: __ Status: Offline Points: 65760 |
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From what I've read, he manually does everything by hand in SoundForge to give the music a more human quality. |
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jude111 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 20 2009 Location: Not Here Status: Offline Points: 1754 |
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Yes. Although I'm not quite sure what SoundForge is ![]() A-hem. Anyway. Yes, SoundForge. Apparently most people found it amazing, and many doubted it at the time. I wonder if that's still how he does it? Given his friendship with Four Tet and a few other producers, I've wondered if he hasn't become more adept at other ways of making music (although I'm ignorant about what those may be)... The last interview he gave was around 2007 I think... He's really become more of a ghost now that we know his real name (or do we?) than before...
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jude111 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 20 2009 Location: Not Here Status: Offline Points: 1754 |
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If anyone's interested, below are all the interviews of Burial that I know about. Not a lot of them, and he stopped doing interviews after late 2007, it seems... 1. Blackdown Interview, December 21, 2005 http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2005/12/blackdown-soundboy-end-of-year-review_21.html 2. Blackdown Interview, March 21, 2006 http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2006/03/soundboy-burial.html 3. The Guardian, 25 October 2007 http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/oct/26/urban 4. Kode9 Interview, November 2007 http://hyperdubrecords.blogspot.com/2007/10/burial-untrue-november-2007.html 5. Cyclic Defrost Interview, November 24, 2007 http://www.cyclicdefrost.com/blog/2007/11/burial-interview-by-emmy-hennings/ 6. Fact Magazine Interview, 2007 http://www.factmag.com/2012/07/01/interview-burial/ 7. Clash Music Interview, Late 2007 http://www.clashmusic.com/feature/untrue-burial 8. The Wire, December (?) 2007 http://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/interviews/burial_unedited-transcript 9. In August 2008, he put a note out on his MySpace, revealing his name. http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/burial-reveals-his-identity-168375 10. Also, in March 2009, The Wire interviewed El-B. At the end of the interview, they printed something Burial wrote on El-B (was it an email, or something he wrote in the press release for the new El-B comp that was coming out? I'm not sure...). Burial's note begins at the bottom, with the sentence, "The first time I heard El-B's garage tunes was in the late 90s." http://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/interviews/el-b-unedited-transcript On his MySpace page, he wrote: "I'm keeping my head down and just going to finish my next album, there's going to be a 12" maybe in the next few weeks too with 4 tunes. Hope u like it, I'll try put a tune up later." Sadly, this never happened; those 4 songs never came out, he didn't put out a new tune right after this, and there's never been another album. I think the media frenzy about his identity must have shook him up and drove him away for a few years.
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jude111 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 20 2009 Location: Not Here Status: Offline Points: 1754 |
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Lately I've been listening to jungle/d&b. In some of the interviews above, Burial mentions some of his favorite tracks, and the songs that influenced him. Some brilliant stuff there, including: Rufige Cru's Beachdrifta. Burial said of this song, "I listen to that track every day. Nothing can ever take anything away from it." Listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IweqjAlQfSA Luke Slater's Love. Burial: "I love the sound of tunes that feel like they’re sort of lost. There are certain tunes like ‘Love’ by Luke Slater, Steve Gurley’s tunes, ‘Let Go’ by Teebee, ‘Ras 78′ by Digital… they just have a feeling trapped in them." Listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcuUn2zka3w Photek's The Hidden Camera. "I love those drums just as much as I love 'Hidden Camera.' He’s obviously a badman: his sound is a bit slicked out, but I still love it." Listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A1M4S0IZnQ Dillinja's Deadly Deep Subs. Burial: "People talk about making ‘dark’ tunes, but they’re not properly dark, they’re just trainee male rage music. When you hear something properly dark, like Dillinja’s ‘Deadly Deep Subs’ or ‘Mortex’ by Tech Itch…they’re dark, they’re fierce tunes, they don’t fake it; they stay true…Some of the darkest tunes aren’t just dark sounds, sometimes vocals and warm sounds can be hypnotic and executed in a cold way…like they got shark eyes looking at you. If you feel like the person that made that tune was moody, had a piece of glass in their head or was bad-minded, then that’s dark and I love that feeling [laughs]." Listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JX-C6RjWlk D'Cruze's Lonely and Foul Play's Being with You Remix. Burial: "All my favourite tunes ever - 'Being With You remix' by Foul Play and 'Lonely' by D’Cruze – are just rolling drums, no bullsh*t and just killer vocal samples. You combine that with circling stuff, it’s an ambient thing, the opposite of riffage." Listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5Eu3GZQsyE and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tye5M9W1Ce0 Edited by jude111 - June 26 2013 at 11:22 |
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Eria Tarka ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 17 2011 Location: BC, Canada Status: Offline Points: 5856 |
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I only have Untrue, but man is that a killer album. I think I'll be exploring his other stuff sometime soon
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jude111 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 20 2009 Location: Not Here Status: Offline Points: 1754 |
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There are persistent rumors that the bloke in the hoodie close to Jame Blake djing at the Boiler Room is none other than Burial himself: |
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Earthmover ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 03 2012 Status: Offline Points: 1509 |
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jude111 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 20 2009 Location: Not Here Status: Offline Points: 1754 |
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The general concensus is that Burial is too good to be remixed. I have to disagree, though. There's been some excellent remixes, many of which are very popular on Youtube. Below are my favorite remixes and mash-ups (which comprise the last 5 on the list below). If you're a fan of Burial, you should appreciate these: Burial - Shell Of Light (Shlohmo Remix) - My favorite of all Burial remixes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeFzFqMcpCY Burial - Dog Shelter (Essay's Old Edit) - My second favorite of all burial remixes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fMo5_d2sjU Burial - Archangel (The Landwhale Remix) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r3PtP9xRJU Burial - Homeless (Sorrow Remix) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Oqen4XoHZ0 Burial - Feral Witchchild (Vinyl Shotz Dubstep Remix) - Feral Witchchild was left off of Untrue, but Kode9 played it when he debuted a mix of Untrue (which can be found on Youtube as well) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YhfARAnr0A Burial - Loner (Exist Strategy Remix) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf9J2JjFhiA Burial - Etched Headplate (Eit B Remix) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I0npnuCqa0 Burial - Shell of Light (Burial Cover Beat) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y945q2HPjbs Burial - Ghost Hardware (IDrM Remix) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKmdbMY0uhQ Burial - Endorphin (Irrelevant Remix) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBSnQOLR0II Flexie vs Burial - Dog Shelter (Flexie Stepper Rework) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drr0B1BdBgQ Fifi Rong - Burial 'Unite' & The Cure 'Friday I'm in Love' mashup http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGr7iL6zvv0 Kryptic minds vs. Burial - Distant dawn vs. Prayer (VS™) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_-akWbI2to Boards Of Canada ft. Burial REMIX ('kaini industries' + 'spaceape') http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0ouJZWLP9o Nate Dogg Remix ft Burial, Four Tet and Thom yorke - I Got Ego http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhuAJmJAiO4 * * * UPDATE: Kode9 has tweeted: "Bored of all 4500 unsolicited burial remixes. they are all sh*t. every single one.” I respectfully disagree ![]() Edited by jude111 - October 13 2013 at 08:16 |
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jude111 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 20 2009 Location: Not Here Status: Offline Points: 1754 |
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It's winter again, which must mean: New Burial's bound to appear! ![]() 1. Four Tet hosted an 8-hour marathon on Rinse FM last week, during which he debuted an unreleased Burial collaboration, which is now on Youtube: http://pitchfork.com/news/52566-listen-four-tet-shares-an-unreleased-burial-collaboration/ 2. Four Tet has a new album out, entitled Beautiful Rewind. It's quite a departure from his earlier work, and while it may not (or may) be a masterpiece, there's several amazing tracks, including Buchla, Aerial (my favorite), Parallel Jalebi, Kool FM, and most importantly for our purposes, the track Gong, which sounds to my ears like a definite Burial collaboration. So far there's no word whether Burial's on this track or not, but I've searched the internet and I'm definitely not the only person out there who hears Burial in this track. It can be heard here on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njiv2ZR4TZk Burial's been known to seek anonymity in his collaborations. Examples include the track by "Dusk + Blackdown + ," called High Road (The mystery guest is widely known to be Burial.) There's also a suspicion that Burial worked with Kryptic Minds on their first dubstep CD, One of Us. (In an interview at the time, the Kryptic Minds duo talked about working closely with Burial. The interview can be found here: http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2009/05/kryptic-minds-and-loefah.html) So what do you think, is Gong a Burial collab? [While I'm on the subject, some of my favorite Four Tet tracks that don't include Burial: Smile Around the Face, Love Cry, Hands, Pyramid.] Edited by jude111 - October 13 2013 at 08:08 |
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jude111 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 20 2009 Location: Not Here Status: Offline Points: 1754 |
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Just hit the news within the hour: New Burial EP to arrive Dec. 16, a 3-track EP totaling 28 minutes. Biggest music news of the year, for me at any rate :-) |
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Earthmover ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 03 2012 Status: Offline Points: 1509 |
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oh god yes oh god yes OH GOD YESSSSSSSS
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Quite happy, i would complain about not releasing another LP, but then we would wait 2 years for just as much material so - i'm good. :D
Curious to see what he'll do here. |
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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jude111 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 20 2009 Location: Not Here Status: Offline Points: 1754 |
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I only hope he has a treasure trove of material that he's not released, that will one day see the light of day. (There are a bunch of tracks that received airplay but have not been released; it's also known that he has collaborated with many artists, but has not allowed that material to be released.) In an old interview, he mentioned making an album after his first one, but discarding it because he thought it was too depressing, and quickly making Untrue and releasing that instead. There was a 2 track EP that was slated for release in 2008 (Hyperdub's website had a date of release for it: Feral Witchchild/Stairwell, I believe, which have turned up in pirated excerpts), but Burial changed his mind. The thing that gets me is how quicly Untrue was made, while everything else he's made seems to have taken quite some time to put together. I know we don't like it when artists repeat themselves, and usually I agree, but in this case, Burial could've kept making Untrue-type albums and I'd be deleriously giddy. Still, I love everything he's done. Edited by jude111 - December 02 2013 at 10:32 |
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A Person ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 10 2008 Location: __ Status: Offline Points: 65760 |
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I read about his new EP on reddit earlier and I'm already anxious to have a new AOTY.
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Earthmover ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 03 2012 Status: Offline Points: 1509 |
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Idk, I probably prefer his EPs to his LPs. I mean, s/t and Untrue are amazing, but Kindred and Truant/Rough Sleeper (haven't listened to others) are something else.
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A Person ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 10 2008 Location: __ Status: Offline Points: 65760 |
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So new Burial was different, but still amazing.
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jude111 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 20 2009 Location: Not Here Status: Offline Points: 1754 |
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I quite like this EP. Been listening to it non-stop. It's really brilliant, and there's more going on here narrative-wise than previous EPs.
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