Has The Archives lost it's way?

When I think of Proto-Prog I think of Procol Harum, It’s a Beautiful Day, Family, etc. I know some of these bands are not listed in Proto-Prog.

Even though The Doors and The Who might have had some elements of Prog in the minority of their music I find it baffling to see them on a Prog website. I don’t think of them as Proto-Prog at all. They influenced Punk and probably many other genres also. Same with the Beatles. The Proto-Prog category is the one I have by far the most problems with.

Too many bands fit in more than just 1 category. I can think of that even changing from not only eras but album to album for some. I guess it’s based on the majority of their music or what category makes them best suited for Prog.

I don’t have a problem with some of these bands listed as Prog-Related. Some bands probably shouldn’t be there. I can name a few bands who should be there but are not. Maybe just not yet.

I listened to The Doors a lot when I was younger. Now I really can’t stand them. But when I did like them I thought of them as influential. But not Proto-Prog. I never thought The End qualified as a Prog epic. Long and psychedelic yes. Their last 2 albums had the most Prog elements and they showed much more maturity. Still not near enough to make it here. Vanilla Fudge Renaissance is a Proto-Prog album but the band definitely isn’t. Had they moved forward and never turned back I would definitely not have a problem with them being on here.

The Dark Elf wrote: Necrotica wrote: Definitely seems like bait to me Evidently, with the way this thread has morphed, the OP is a master baiter.

altered_beast wrote: Yes I had the Tommy album. The only Who are I ever owned. I wasn’t blown away by it or anything. I didn’t think of it as the masterpiece everyone said it was. In fact I was disappointed even though I had a very low opinion of The Who. Pet Sounds from The Beach Boys is another album with some Proto-Prog in it. Doesn’t mean that The Beach Boys belong on this site. But maybe the album does. I thought of this a while back. How about instead of putting these artists in Proto-Prog that really don’t belong, put the albums instead. Honorable mentions to albums that helped shape and contribute to Prog. Give it its own section. Put albums like Pet Sounds, Tommy, The Soft Parade, Abbey Road, etc. It would be more compelling and welcomed by many. The confusion would end there. It would make a historical monument on its own. There is already a section similar to this with musicals and soundtracks that have Prog attached to them. This would make great mention of influential albums.

I really enjoy that ProgArchives includes other bands who are not necessarily prog.

Edited by Boojieboy - September 18 2023 at 17:14

Atavachron wrote: The Dark Elf wrote: Necrotica wrote: Definitely seems like bait to me Evidently, with the way this thread has morphed, the OP is a master baiter. I made that joke about TheT nearly fifteen years ago.   Geesh how time flies.

Yeah, I recall the Doors being on here when I first made an account, or being added soon after. Perhaps back then I was a bit iffy on them, Led Zeppelin and others being added, but we're far past that point now. PA is a site that includes bands that have any progressive elements at all, and I think that's fine. It's interesting to note progressive tendencies in bands that are not fully prog. The 60's and 70's in particular were a period when the distinction wasn't always so clear. The term "Progressive Rock" wasn't in widespread use back then, as I understand it.

This again, really?

MortSahlFan wrote: The Doors are progressive. 1967-1971 and 20 different rhythms. And a LOT of other creative stuff. "but they were on the radio!"

Edited by moshkito - October 31 2023 at 08:33