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Points: 5359 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote essexboyinwales Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2025 at 08:13
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Reading through the comments, what's wrong with Ayreon?
If you enjoy this project, don't worry about it. But surely you must have noticed before that one and a half hour long over the top Progressive Metal Rock Operas with b-movie storylines - rub some people the wrong way?

The vocal ensembles alone would be enough to turn me off. But for me it's like every aspect I've never actually enjoyed about Prog rolled into one project. Quite en achievement, really.


I like Tom Baker of Doctor Who so I checked out Ayreon's Transitus and it did seem very cheesy to me. Mind you, one might call a significant amount of Doctor Who cheesy too.



Transitus is not an Ayreon highlight…..🤓
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Hi,

I don't want to say a whole lot about any musician out there doing something or other with other folks. In many cases, Europe specially, many of the folks were in school together and knew a bit about each other, and I don't think that any of those folks worried about their friends being different. You're there to help as they want/need and that's that.

The one thing that bothers me, is when another "superbsgroup gets started and the idea is that they can't miss putting something together, and almost every time it is terribly over rated and a bit on the ... publicity side, if not a chance for those folks to pick up some quick cash.

It makes it all like we can not appreciate someone taking the trash out in the morning, or taking the child to school, or going to check the mail box ... the kind of mundane things day in and out ... and that's the real life ... the rest is just a bit of fun ... though I rarely buy any of that stuff.

I did not like the GO thing, both albums. It was a really poor mix of musicians, and their compatibility was not helpful to the concept of the whole thing, in my estimation. I got the first one via the station, and heard it a couple of times, but ... but ... but ... that was it. Nothing special in it at all.

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Projects like Explorer's Club or more recently Legacy Pilots come to mind. These are not necessarily bad (EC's second album is horrible), but generally containing mediocre to substandard songwriting. Even greatest guests cannot elevate that. I occasionally come across [very likely] wealthy guys from different parts of the world who apparently want their dreams come true and invite Steve Hackett and similar prog stars to play a tiny, insignificant solo just to create a hype about their mediocre-to-lackluster attempts to create music, while featuring this and that legend. [Un]fortunately I cannot remember their names..

Ayreon is a good exception from this. His albums do live up the hype. At least the classic ones before/including 2008, especially Into Electric Castle and The Universal Migrator. Then Lucassen IMO went downhill with the ability to write melodic hooks and memorable musical compositions.


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