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arhar 
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 18:10 |
Apologies if this was asked a million times already..
My girlfriend already has great taste in music - she likes jazz (as do I, we go to jazz clubs a couple of times every month here in NYC), classical and opera. She also likes Pink Floyd. But I want to get her into the real prog - my personal favorites are Genesis, Yes, Camel, Gentle Giant, Anyone's Daughter, Novalis, BDMS, PFM, Eloy, IQ, Synkopy, Phideaux, etc.
I was thinking to start with some jazz fusion - Mahavishnu Orchestra, Weather Report, Brand X, Jean Louis.. but what's next? Any recommendations, anyone here was in a similar situation?
Thanks
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 18:14 |
miRthkon - Vehicle (2009) I rest my case
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 18:27 |
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Take her to Farfest in October. Give her the chance to see these bands perform live. Pulsar should be there and I believe that has been confirmed. If she takes a liking to Pulsar or other bands of that nature, she might like Eloy. Take her out to dinner on a stormy night and play Eloy in the car. If it fits the atmosphere everything might fall into place for her.
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 18:28 |
 centum wrote:
miRthkon - Vehicle (2009) I rest my case |
If she's into fusion, I'd go with Metheny's The Way Up first.
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 18:32 |
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Start with Roundabout and various songs by Rush.
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 18:33 |
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Jazz and classical are better than prog, just forget about it
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 18:48 |
Steve Hackett once asked his keyboard player of the day (a certain Julian Colbeck, back in the early 90s) why it was that girls don't like prog. Julian thought carefully for a moment or two, and then replied: "Too many notes..." So I guess that's it, really - too many notes! 
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 18:54 |
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Don't try. But if you must, Pure Reason Revolution's debut, Dark Side, and Fragile.
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 18:55 |
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 18:56 |
You're really lucky to have a GF who already likes great, substantial, and respectable music!  I'd say you probably won't have to try too hard... I think the classics would probably do her just fine. You might want to stay clear of anything too heavy-metal sounding though... anything with lush, creative harmonic structure would be fine. Genesis comes to mind, and Mahavishnu Orchestra as you mentioned.
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prog4evr
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 19:01 |
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If you get her to like Brand X, you might get her into 70s Genesis (tell her Phil Collins is the same drummer). But, if Brand X doesn't get her groove on, I suggest Return To Forever, "Romantic Warrior." Great fusion (and rock) stuff there!
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progprogprog
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 19:03 |
IMO you shouldn't try it.why?, well because girls like guys to have their own qualities.to my experience never ever explain music to them, never.Just make your ipod a puzzle to her. In my whole opinion of course. and and trust me girls aren't a good company in a prog fest.  |
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 19:13 |
I knew a girl years ago who listened to King Crimson's Lizard in her car almost everyday. She designed a pair of fangs at the dentist office which was her work place. She would wear the fangs (which were well hidden), drive around listening to prog in the evenings. As she carried on a conversation with you the fangs were hidden. After hours of prog cruise control and Univers Zero she would turn and look at you showing her fangs. It was a bit shocking because it was easy to forget she had them.
A girl I knew who practiced Keith Emerson on the piano all day was a devoted prog fan. My first wife who joined a religious cult listened to Gong and studied the Gong mythology. They all seemed very extreme and the majority of girls I met in my lifetime had no interest in prog at all. I wonder if my point makes any sense to you? If the majority of women are creeped out by U Totem then what does that have to say for the minority of women who do like it ?
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 19:19 |
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I'do go with some Cantebury Scene Prog (not the extremely weird stuff...at first...), maybe some Hatfield and the North.
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centum
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 19:35 |
TODDLER wrote:
I knew a girl years ago who listened to King Crimson's Lizard in her car almost everyday. She designed a pair of fangs at the dentist office which was her work place. She would wear the fangs (which were well hidden), drive around listening to prog in the evenings. As she carried on a conversation with you the fangs were hidden. After hours of prog cruise control and Univers Zero she would turn and look at you showing her fangs. It was a bit shocking because it was easy to forget she had them.
A girl I knew who practiced Keith Emerson on the piano all day was a devoted prog fan. My first wife who joined a religious cult listened to Gong and studied the Gong mythology. They all seemed very extreme and the majority of girls I met in my lifetime had no interest in prog at all. I wonder if my point makes any sense to you? If the majority of women are creeped out by U Totem then what does that have to say for the minority of women who do like it ? |
oh, wow where can I read about the Gong mythology?
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 19:40 |
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 19:57 |
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my wife suggests Seen All Good People. this coming from a woman who thought prog was music from the city Prague.
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KingCrimson250
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 19:59 |
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If she likes jazz, classical and opera, then maybe try starting her with the prog stuff closest to those - Banco comes to mind, and the big one is fusion. Keep throwing on Miles albums (chicks dig Miles) until you get up to In A Silent Way or even Bitches Brew. See if you can use those as a springboard (hey, if you like this, I have another band that's kind of similar)
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 20:06 |
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Try Hogarth era Marillion; some more personal and emotional lyrics.
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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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Progosopher
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Posted: January 18 2012 at 20:10 |
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What Jazz/Rock fusion you would introduce her to depends on what she likes about Jazz. Pat Metheny might be your best starting place because he has a place in straight Jazz. Question and Answer and Trio 99 are very straight-forward, as is 1978's Pat Metheny Group. Jean-Luc Ponty's Storytelling is also much more straight-forward than his other material. You mention Weather Report. Good idea. Try Return to Forever or some of Al Di Meola's solo work. What about Miles Davis or Herbie Hancock? PFM may also work well. If she likes Pink Floyd, move on to some more Psychadelic/Space rock such as Jade Warrior (who always get one of my highest recommendations) - just be aware they have been very diverse over the years. Above all, let mer make her own choices and do not try to force her to like anything no matter how important it is to you. This will backfire and turn her into a hater. Let her lead the exploration and allow yourself to open to new artists as well. Make it fun and not a task.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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