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    Posted: June 07 2008 at 01:27
Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

Originally posted by ten years after ten years after wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I never thought I'd see The Lamb Lies Down or The Joshua Tree described as "turkeys", .
 
Just shows that there as many different opinions as there are people.  I rate both the above mentioned albums in the top 5 studio albums of all time and the high point of Genesis' and U2s careers.
 
I realize that I'm in a small but still significant minority in thinking that The Joshua Tree  marks the ruination of U2.  I can even understand why some people think it is one of their best albums, but for me, it represents an abandonment of everything that I truly enjoyed about U2.
 
I remember being at my job back in the very early '90's when I was discussing U2 with a couple of my subordinates.   One was a young kid (maybe 17 or so) and the other was an army vet verging on thirty.  I asked them both which was the album on which U2 sold out.   The army vet fingered The Joshua Tree immediately, and the teenager adamantly refused to believe that U2 had sold out.
 
I rate the 3 tracks at the heart of the Joshua Tree as U2s 1st, 3rd and 5th best efforts (Red Hill Mining Town, Running to Stand Still and Bullet the Blue Sky respectively).  "For the Mothers of the Disappeared" also deserves a lot more attention than it has ever received and gets number 6 spot on mu U2 list.  Innevitably, I rate the Joshua Tree as my favourite U2 album.  With the complexity of the compositions i also believe it to be the closest in style to progressive rock that U2 have produced.
 
BTW - "Elvis Presley and America" and "One" are 2 and 4 on my list.
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Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

I'll never get over Ian Anderson's 'Walk into Light'


Similarly, I'll never forgive a certain person for ruining Tull on 'Under Wraps' - common denominator between this album & Anderson' s 'Walk Into Light'? Peter John Vetesse smothering everything in nasty 1980's synths & reducing Tull to a pop band - Grrrr.
 
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Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

I'll never get over Ian Anderson's 'Walk into Light'


Similarly, I'll never forgive a certain person for ruining Tull on 'Under Wraps' - common denominator between this album & Anderson' s 'Walk Into Light'? Peter John Vetesse smothering everything in nasty 1980's synths & reducing Tull to a pop band - Grrrr.

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Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

oh, hrm. Neu! 2 (slots in between Neu! and Neu! '75 I think) =) I'm appreciating music from Germany more and more lately, but this album will never be good.
 
I disagree. I can understand why the "experimental" tracks (Neuschnee 78, Super 16, Cassetto, Super 16 and Hallo Excentrico!) are disliked by some but what about the other tracks? Für Immer, Neuschnee, Lila Engel and Super are great tracks. Surely a turkey is an album with no saving graces?
 
Agreed - I actually think that Neu! 2 is due for a major re-evaluation.
 
 
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Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

oh, hrm. Neu! 2 (slots in between Neu! and Neu! '75 I think) =) I'm appreciating music from Germany more and more lately, but this album will never be good.
 
I disagree. I can understand why the "experimental" tracks (Neuschnee 78, Super 16, Cassetto, Super 16 and Hallo Excentrico!) are disliked by some but what about the other tracks? Für Immer, Neuschnee, Lila Engel and Super are great tracks. Surely a turkey is an album with no saving graces?
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LOL.  The B side of Islands is one of the most relaxing works known to man.   It's a very pleasant way to drift off.
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Wouldn't call it a 'turkey', since it's not really a bad album, but I find Islands the weakest link of KC's glorious career. It is definitely the album of theirs I play most rarely, and whenever I do I feel an irresistible urge to lie down and sleep - something that never happens to me with any other of the band's albums.
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Seriously, though, don't do that again.
 
I do not plant to! I am a big Hillfish fan but that album just doesn't do it for me. Perhaps I need to revisit it  . What am I missing?, as I am open to reconsideration. Smile
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For me, Tull's "Too Old to Rock and Roll" was one such atypical, mid-career "turkey."
 
Thankfully, Ian A. & co. soon returned to form. Smile
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oh, hrm. Neu! 2 (slots in between Neu! and Neu! '75 I think) =) I'm appreciating music from Germany more and more lately, but this album will never be good.
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Originally posted by ten years after ten years after wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I never thought I'd see The Lamb Lies Down or The Joshua Tree described as "turkeys", .
 
Just shows that there as many different opinions as there are people.  I rate both the above mentioned albums in the top 5 studio albums of all time and the high point of Genesis' and U2s careers.
 
I realize that I'm in a small but still significant minority in thinking that The Joshua Tree  marks the ruination of U2.  I can even understand why some people think it is one of their best albums, but for me, it represents an abandonment of everything that I truly enjoyed about U2.
 
I remember being at my job back in the very early '90's when I was discussing U2 with a couple of my subordinates.   One was a young kid (maybe 17 or so) and the other was an army vet verging on thirty.  I asked them both which was the album on which U2 sold out.   The army vet fingered The Joshua Tree immediately, and the teenager adamantly refused to believe that U2 had sold out.
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Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Yes: Open Your Eyes
 
..has to be just about the most horrible 'prog-related' album I've ever heard...Dead
 
How did I miss this?  Not only is it bad in it's own right but it was released between the KTA's and The Ladder.  I guess I gave up on Yes when I realized that Tormato didn't really qualify....
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

Ok, so the idea is to find a bad album with good albums before and after....
 
Let's see.
 
Pink Floyd -- Wish You Were Here instantly springs to mind.  It's not a bad album of course, but it gets severely owned on both sides.
 
Genesis -- Nursery Cryme had the misfortune to be released between extremely strong albums.
 


Actually I think the idea was to name "turkeys". You may not like these albums but they are numbers 5 and 23 in the PA chart and generally recognised as prog classics, so not really turkeys.
 
Ahh, if the idea is to name true turkeys, not albums that are just much poorer in relation to the albums before and after them, then neither of these qualify.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I never thought I'd see The Lamb Lies Down or The Joshua Tree described as "turkeys", .
 
Just shows that there as many different opinions as there are people.  I rate both the above mentioned albums in the top 5 studio albums of all time and the high point of Genesis' and U2s careers.
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Hillage- Motivation Radio (between the delirious “L” and “Green” )


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Seriously, though, don't do that again.
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The Mars Volta's Francis the Mute is probably the most frustrating album I have ever heard, and its inbetween the brilliant De-lOused in the Comatorium and the rather good Amputechture.  

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Collage- Safe                                       (yeah, exactly, after the stunning Moonshine)

Oldfield- Islands                                   An island of quality away

Ange- Moteur! & Vu d’un Chien          (after the great Guet-Apens)

Camel- The Single Factor                     (between Nude & Stationary Traveller)

Genesis- And then there were 3            (beurk!)

Hawkwind- Out & Intake                     (disgusting!)

Hillage- Motivation Radio                     (between the delirious “L” and “Green” )

Like Wendy- Endgame                          is aptly titled: not good!

Moria Falls- Embrace                           (not exactly after the majestic “The Long Goodbye” )

Of course the 2 IQ albums with Peter Menel on vocals

Nova- Sun City                                     is nowhere as delicious as the previous 2 jewels

Pallas- Knightsmove to Wedge              No where near the Sentinel

Renaissance- Camera                            Click-click

The Strawbs- Nomadness                     No goodness either!

Taï Phong- Last Flight                           Indeed

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Originally posted by DJPuffyLemon DJPuffyLemon wrote:

 
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

The Mars Volta's Francis the Mute is probably the most frustrating album I have ever heard, and its inbetween the brilliant De-lOused in the Comatorium and the rather good Amputechture.  
holy f**k do i disagree

LOL

Knew someone would disagree.

I should add Kayo Dots Dowsing Anamone with Copper Tongue, a poor album between two masterpieces.Evil%20Smile

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