Badly need Gentle Giant Metal
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Topic: Badly need Gentle Giant Metal
Posted By: centum
Subject: Badly need Gentle Giant Metal
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 17:00
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As had already been said in the headline, I seek music that can be (loosely) described as Gentle Giant Metal Or at least Gentle-Giant-influenced Metal If it is just something that a young metal-loving (including the extreme stuff) GG fan would appreciate but sounds nothing like GG, I would be delighted as well (and a touch of RIO or avant-garde would be awesome) I don"t mind the alternative stuff as well, I love Faith No More, System of a Down and even Limp Bizkit Zappa-metal would be great too (I freaking love miRthkon) PS. I'm a forum newbie, are we allowed to swear hear? cause I would love too From Russia with love |
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 17:02
| Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, maybe? |
Posted By: centum
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 17:10
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Don't really like em I mean I love a couple of songs and don't care about the rest |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 17:14
f**k no, are you crazy? Anyway, I really have no idea what to suggest. I'm trying really hard to come up with suggestions, so I'll let you know eventually if any cross my mind. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
centum wrote:Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 17:17
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No you can't swear.
Check this out before posting further: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=78" rel="nofollow - Site Rules And Guidelines |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 17:26
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I'm not really going off your question, but you might like SikTh.
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Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 17:42
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< ="-" ="text/; =utf-8"> Ever Forthright, Deathspell Omega, Leprous, Kayo Dot's first couple of albums and the latest, motW's Bath and LYBM... NAKED CITY'S GRAND GUIGNOL IS A MUST
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Posted By: centum
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 17:43
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Sikth's alright just a bit monotonous at times |
Posted By: centum
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 17:51
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Polo, That's what I'm talking about I admire Leprous and trying to appreciate Kayo Dot Concerning Deathspell Omega: I've checked out Kénôse since Trey Spruance recommended it in an interview but I remember not really liking it I'll probably try them again, this time an LP and what are motW and LYBM? |
Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 17:56
motW = maudlin of the Well Their last album is not metal but it is very good. GO GET GRAND GUIGNOL
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Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 18:00
| And I highly recommend Deathspell Omega's Fas - Ite, Maledicti, In Igneum Aeternum. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 18:16
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Shining (Norway) ? Zu's Carboniferous isn't technically metal, but you might like that too |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 18:27
Why stuff good music by adding metal? 
Metal sucks
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Posted By: centum
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 18:34
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Polo, I've listened to Part the Second and honestly couldn't understand what was all the fuzz about Sometimes I listen an album two years later trying to understand why I didn't like it the first time. Maybe it's one of those cases but then again there's Tool, who I consider highly overrated. I've given them a million chances to impress me with their music (as I've always been impressed by their image of an occult-friendly band) and they failed every time, so maudling can be in line with Tool. But I'll definetely try again Triceratopsoil, Yeah, I love Shining and I'll check out Zu BTW, is it safe to speak about downloading? If it's mentioned in the rules than you have to excuse me as I believe nobody reads the rules of forums |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 18:34
Say here "nobody cares what you think." Although I'm pretty sure you're used to that by now. |
Posted By: centum
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 18:35
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dr prog, there's this song by Strapping Young Lad about you it's called You Suck |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 18:45
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Illegal downloading or pirating shouldn't be talked about, any other downloads though are okay. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 18:47
Most of the artists I recommended aren't exactly in the best of financial situations so I strongly encourage you to save a few bucks and buy a couple of records so you can make your friends jealous. And you cannot discuss that here.
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 19:52
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I'm liking newbie here. Welcome to PA. But, still, I have no idea what to suggest. What exactly do you mean by Gentle Giant metal? I'm assuming either metal with medieval or folk tendencies or metal with heavy use of polyrhythms. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 20:24
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centum, you are welcome here. Welcome. And that SYL comment... It was perfect. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 20:27
| Meshuggah is the best I could come up with that wasn't already mentioned. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 20:27
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Somebody just reminded me, maybe this http://sotmusic.bandcamp.com/album/kind-of-saltz" rel="nofollow - http://sotmusic.bandcamp.com/album/kind-of-saltz |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 21:01
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Zappa-metal? I'm no big expert on what you are looking for, but Dream Theater is highly influenced by Frank Zappa, particularly in their instrumental sections. For example, songs like Beyond This Life (especially the Live at Budokan version), Erotomania, Metropolis Pt 1, and Outcry may be what you are looking for; plus many more... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 21:10
Oh yea, definitely. Great album too. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 22:28
No you have the wrong song, it's called 'I'm right'
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Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 22:37
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Hey dr prog, Naked City composed a few songs about you they're tracks 12, 25, 36 and 41 on their Grand Guignol album
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 22:38
| old troll is old |
Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 22:51
I'm currently writing an album. New song I finished today is called 'Tedious c**t' -------------  
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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 23:05
Missed this. This is awesome. -------------
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 23:16
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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: January 08 2012 at 23:22
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Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 00:19
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LOOOOOOOL -------------  
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 00:32
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Listen to this - Metal, quiet stuff, concept, humour = brilliance ------------- 
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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 00:34
Interesting that in the archives Grand Guignol's tracklisting is uncensored. Not sure if this is an example of hypocrisy or people not giving anywhere near enough of a sh*t about a masterpiece album. I'll leave that for you to decide. -------------
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 00:49
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you need to check out some Lumsk i think heavy folk metal with progressive leanings, it is realy folk but they also bring in chanting and classical music. -------------  
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 03:14
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Posted By: centum
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 05:37
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thank you, i've been using PA as a source of great new music for a couple of years, and there's no one around with more or less similar taste in what one can describe as 'progressive music' (not just prog rock), so I guess it was inevitable that I join the forums Yeah, by the way I study linguistics and specialize in English but I don't really have any practice with native speakers, so It would be great if all of you guys point my mistakes
Thanks) By Gentle Giant Metal I mean metal with at least one attribute typical of GG what I likea about GG most of all is probably eclectism, but they have this particular style of eclectism, where all the elements they combine are awesome as hell I really like their funkyness, jazzyness, Rabelais and psychology-influenced lyrics. I like that their music is in major key most of the time, their medievel influences, great vocal work (in terms of vocal the closest thing is probably POS's Entropia) and so on |
Posted By: centum
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 05:52
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meshuggah's very far from what I'd descrive as GG metal, although technically it's not wrong)
as probably most people who listen to prog for more than a month, DT makes me sick. And I never really liked a single album by them, just some songs like The Dance of Eternity Although I've listened to some albums by Zappa that I didn't find very experimental, I can't get this image out of my head that his music is like miRthkon without distortion)
oh, come on Townsend is like one of the greatest musicians of all times for me and Ziltoid is not his personal best, Infinity is probably more Gentle Giantish |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 06:11
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^^^ Ziltoid rocks and simply deserves to have his presence feel lest you be subjugated by the PLAAAAAAAAANET SMAAAAAAASHEEEEEEER!!!!!! -------------
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Posted By: centum
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 06:28
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 06:36
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 07:05
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I think UneXpect, particularly their second album In a Flesh Aquarium, might be what you're looking for.
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 07:18
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Cant belive noone mentioned this, or is it me beeing blind. ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 07:29
This. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: centum
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 07:51
yeah, not really I mean it fits the requirements and I know they are geniuses (some of my friends even describe them as music 2.0) but I just hate the Alvin and the Chipmunks vocals Concerning UneXpect, I've listened to In a Flesh Aquarium and wasn't really into it, but I masturbate to Fables of the Sleepless Empire all day long |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 08:41
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Devy's Deconstruction is about as close to Zappa metal as you can get in my book.
But there is a whole slew of Bungle styled bands some crazier (Unexpect) some a little straighter (Shaolin Death Squad).
I assume you've done the djent thing with Animals as Leaders, Cloudkicker, et al.
If you can handle harsh vocals, Ephel Duath is pretty amazing stuff.
And I assume you have the two Cynic albums which are just amazing.
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Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 08:59
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Between The Buried and Me ------------- I'm so mad that you enjoy a certain combination of noises that I don't |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 09:42
Given that your pretty clued up on this kind of music, I'm going to have to dive into some of the more obscure bands I know of. You might like Akphaezya, crazy French band in the UneXpect vein but not as technically brilliant. Circle Take the Square, Rolo Tomassi, Diablo Swing Orchestra, Ebony Lake, Hookah the Fuzz, In Lingua Mortua and Protest the Hero are about as much as I can think of that might offer something of what your looking for. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 09:59
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Posted By: centum
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 13:10
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Yeah, I rally like Animals As Leaders but I find Cloudkicker etremely boring And I just hate Disneyish clean vocals in Periphery Ephel Duath might be a good recommendadtion and although I've listened to them, it was so long ago that I don't actually remember the sound, but I remember that it was some kind of blackish polyrhythmical jazz metal As for Cynic: I loke some songs on Traced in Air but all-in-all find the album to be very boring, and I haven't really heard the other one
more or less sleeper, thank you I'll chek out those bands that you've recommended Guys, thank you. But in general you recommend more melancholic stuff and it would be great if you suggest more upbeat bands I'm almost satisfied, there's plenty of music to listen to, but if there's something more suitable (or upbeat) let me know |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 14:05
Metal should be removed from the prog name. It's an insult to the great prog of the period 1968-83.
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 14:12
Funny troll is funny. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 14:22
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you have not responded to me yet,, (though really not important) but worth checking
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Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 14:24
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Has no one really suggested Mastodon yet? To me they're kind of the Gentle Giant of metal. Extremely eclectic within their genre. -------------
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 14:30
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i have though the exact same thing but never deard to say it out loud
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Posted By: centum
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 15:01
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Sorry, I *did that thing that I'm not supposed to mention* their albums So, we'll see
come on, dude, like there's someone who doesn't know Mastodon in this world although I acknowledge them as one of the central bands in music today, I'm f*cking sick of them I've been listening to Leviathan for like 4 month and then I have to stop listening for Mastodon for a while, you know, to make a breake. But they are so fuc*ing popular and all my friends just can't get enough so for some 6 years there's Mastodon everywhere I go I'd die not to hear that fu*king redheaded bum's voice for a day (and did I mention I consider them geniuses?) But I'm totally into Baroness right now =D |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 15:05
| I'm going to suggest miRthkon, though their focus is definitely more on the wonky Zappa-esque jazz side of things rather than on the metal. Also, something of a wildcard but how about Ruins? |
Posted By: centum
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 15:13
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miRthkon were mentioned in the first post) and they are P H U K C I N G A W E S O M E which album(s) by Ruin should I chek out? |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 15:16
Upbeat? Wow, now we're in trouble. In my experience most of the really good bands in prog metal tend to go to the melancholic, dark, depressing side of things, very few in the other direction and none that I can think of that would fit what you want. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 15:52
I like this guy more with every post he makes
I was about to say "at least Walter was funny" Has anybody mentioned Diablo Swing Orchestra or Grayceon yet? |
Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 15:58
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The Gourishankar did a metal version of For Nobody on "Close Grip"
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Posted By: centum
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 16:19
wanna make sweet sweet love while listening to Funkadelic? guess not, taking into account that you're 'devilishly handsome' and stuff and I'm a million miles away oh, and almost forgot, I'm straight and have a girlfriend... that's a bummer and I already know Diablo Swing Orchestra, I have Poetic Pitbull Revolutions as an alarm signal on my phone, I'm a f**king toreador alright |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 17:34
Oops! Not sure how I missed that.
Yes, yes they are.
OK, so Ruins are more of a noise/math rock thing than a metal thing per se, but they're plenty loud and complicated, especially considering on most albums they're a drums/bass duo. My route into them was their last studio album Tzomborgha - I worked my way back from there. If you want a more expanded sound then you could try their sister group Koenjihyakkei. They feature keys, sax etc. and some pretty intense operatic vocals. Again, loud and breathtakingly complex. Ultimately, I doubt we'll ever see a true metal-orientated successor to GG. Their mix of eclecticism, invention, compositional skill and sheer FUNKINESS (which I was pleased to see you didn't overlook) is just such a unique and inimitable combination. Has anyone suggested Cardiacs yet? I usually end up recommending them sooner or later, whatever the circumstances, as they're basically the best thing in the entire history of things. Again, not strictly a metal band, but they dabble rather effectively on the album Sing to God. Check out the song Firey Gun Hand. |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 17:40
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Rahmann are cool
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 17:54
I got in there with DSO. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 18:42
Although I would say "not remotely a metal band," I still mostly agree with you |
Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: January 09 2012 at 19:13
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I never get any Gentle Giant vibe from Sing To God. It is amazing though. I always just hear it as Avant Punk. -------------
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: January 10 2012 at 06:23
Yes, you're right. I'm not much of a metal fan, so I honestly don't know where the line is generally drawn between "big loud riffy guitars" and "METAL". I would've thought songs like A Horses Tail and Angleworm Angel had that metal quality but I could be wrong. All much of a muchness, if you ask me.
Really? I think there's way more going on in that album than just avant-punk. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that "Sing to God" is probably their least punky album. It's their earlier stuff (early tapes through to "On Land and in the Sea") which really give off the old school punk vibe. After that everything goes a bit wonky and poppy and heavy and psychedelic. Regarding Gentle Giant-y moments from "Sing to God", I'd point to the crazy instrumental section in Firey Gun Hand (just before the 4 minute mark), the closing theme on Fairy Mary Mag (which also pops up on Odd Even), Wireless, Dog-Like Sparky... Obviously there's a lot more to that album and Cardiacs in general than mere Gentle Giant-isms, but they're scattered here and there throughout all of their albums. In fact, that's what first drew me to Cardiacs, Gentle Giant having previously been my favourite band of all time. |
Posted By: centum
Date Posted: January 10 2012 at 07:13
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I get it, I'll definitely check Cardiacs out I've just browsed through my music collection and... I'm surprised no one suggested Freak Kitchen, and it's probably the closest one yet And why the hell Freak Kitchen is not on the website? |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: January 10 2012 at 08:21
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Massacre, with Bill Laswell and Fred Frith. Some may not call them "Metal" though; I do. About the only metal I like. -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: January 10 2012 at 10:13
| Massacre aren't metal, they're just punky atonal new-wave. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 10 2012 at 13:30
this, but they are still pretty cool |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: January 16 2012 at 09:07
| Arcturus for sure. |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: January 16 2012 at 09:10
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Also try Perhaps Contraption |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 17 2012 at 11:13
| Do you know Blotted Science and Parallaxe? |
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: January 17 2012 at 13:29
 There's goes my chance.
I was starting to get worried when you all that post and no Cardiacs until I got to the last paragraph . Even if this was a polka forum I'd be suggesting them.------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: January 17 2012 at 13:35
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That's a tough one. Lots of Crimson influenced metal out there, but Gental Giant? The nearest I can think of is Unexpect. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: January 17 2012 at 13:38
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Behold... The Arctopus >>>> Blotted Science ------------- I'm so mad that you enjoy a certain combination of noises that I don't |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 17 2012 at 13:45
Exactly vice versa for me. Hardly anything could be more boring than Behold... to me. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 17 2012 at 17:23
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check this band -------------
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