Ambient Den to Crossover

Well, the biography is word-for-word copied from the band's official website, which isn't really sticking to Keishiro's revised Artist Submission Procedure which he introduced in March 2020 in an attempt to stem the flood of new suggestions that we had towards the end of 2019, and which caused several genre teams to become overwhelmed with a backlog of suggestions to process, but this is good stuff indeed, and I think it will be an absolute shoo-in for Crossover.

So, I'll sort out an original biography for these guys myself, and I'm happy to say that they're now on the Crossover chart with my 'yes'. Thanks for bringing the band to our attention.

^ The requirement that an original biography is included with a new suggestion has indeed caused a marked decline in the number of bands/artists that are being submitted, and as a result our database now has several quite significant omissions.

I am quite happy to throw something together for a new suggestion if the band or artist concerned obviously belongs here, but not all the genre teams have someone like me available, who is now well into retirement, and has plenty of time on his hands during the majority of the year to dig out and edit the necessary info to create these biographies.

Until Keishiro rewrote the artist submission procedure back in late February 2020 to give the genre teams some much needed breathing space, we were getting several new suggestions presented here most days of the week - often with little or no biographical info provided. Most of our genre teams have lost one or more active members since then, and it's not been possible to find replacements for all of them, so the situation regarding the writing of biographies would now be even more difficult for them if we were to re-open the floodgates.

Yes, the PA community loses as a result of this insistence on the provision of an original biography with each fresh suggestion, but that's the only way it can be with the current set up that we have. There are quite a few members here who could suggest new bands daily - including both collabs and non-collabs - but just like yourself, they also have a life to live outside of PA, so we're stuck with things as they are, I'm afraid.

Edit: There is actually nothing wrong with PA using a biography provided by the band or artist themselves, as long as we have permission from them to do so, and include an appropriate credit at the end of the biography.

However, the biography included on the Ambient Den website to me reads a bit too much like a press release/promotional piece than a purely factual biography, so I don't think it would really be suitable to use it on our page as it is, even if we do have their permission.

Edited by yam yam - August 16 2025 at 17:00

^ You don't need to do anything in this instance, Mayer, since I'm going to provide a biography to use for these guys myself if we clear them in Crossover.

It would be useful to the other genre teams if you could provide an original biography of your own with any future suggestions you have in mind - even if it's only a very brief biography - and most of our team leaders would credit you at the bottom if they subsequently used it on the page.

However, if the only biography that you have for any future suggestion has been given to you by a band or its promoter, and it's essentially just a promotional blurb, then there's no harm in posting it here anyway if you don't have time to edit it into something more suitable yourself, and if the band clearly belongs on PA then I'll do my best to sort something out with it myself.

Review posted, thrilling album....