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Direct Link To This Post Topic: What band isn't prog, but you say it is?
    Posted: Yesterday at 00:12
If I'm not sure, I just say "prog related!"

That seems to cover ANYTHING!! Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Lynyrd Skynyrd, whatever!!   
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Svetty!! Not even trying to pass for a reliable, decent user! Lame and cringe...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Yesterday at 00:44
Yes this self-proclaimed moron is the only one who thanks himself from one of his other accounts. What a total dick. Saying that he acts like a child, would be an insult to children. How old is he again?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 hours 17 minutes ago at 04:21
Okey dokey. Seems like some posts have been removed but the thread is still active?
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Svetonio is a poop who thinks "mint suits" is a number and whose downspout enthusiasm is no different than the odor of a bunk bed helicopter piloted by a cadaverous Jupiter that lost his red spot to a herd of honeycomb ducks smoking greasy tablecloths.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 hours 46 minutes ago at 05:52
And I thought personal attacks were not allowed at PA.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 hours 44 minutes ago at 05:54
When I was new to Prog I always thought Meat Loaf was at least loosely connected to the genre. I was surprised when I saw he was not even in Prog Related on this site! Bat Out of Hell has to be one of the most well known long (9 min) rock songs, and he has several other well known songs that go over 10 min (e.g I would do anything for love), so I still kind of see him very mild prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 hours 16 minutes ago at 06:22
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

And I thought personal attacks were not allowed at PA.


Are you defending Svetinio, the user who's done most damage to the forum & site?
His recent user incarnations were only meant to insult Greg (Logan).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 hours 12 minutes ago at 06:26
Originally posted by LakeGlade12 LakeGlade12 wrote:

When I was new to Prog I always thought Meat Loaf was at least loosely connected to the genre. I was surprised when I saw he was not even in Prog Related on this site! Bat Out of Hell has to be one of the most well known long (9 min) rock songs, and he has several other well known songs that go over 10 min (e.g I would do anything for love), so I still kind of see him very mild prog.


Hi,

As much as I would wish/like to be able to make suggestions, I have given up.

I'll review a few things as they appear and sometimes they are nice and some times they are not (won't review those or say anything), but in general, I think that the decisions made for inclusion, are too much limited to sounding like someone else already selected, and I have my doubts about the qualities of the musical ability in many additions, since they are copies of a copy and that is also a copy.

My ideas, though probably a bit on the sophomoric side, are more open to new ideas and thoughts and music ... and the art form has for hundreds of years about changes, with one exception ... a major exception ... the folks that made the decisions always sided with the King (or otherwise) and in general, they only liked what they already knew and heard ... and guess what ... same thing here. So 500 years later, it's like we don't listen, we only copy.

PA has gotten better for my tastes in terms of selections for things that are liked and heard ... many of the lists these days are far out to say the least and they have several things from all over the world ... and this shows a much wider appreciation for things.

The question is, for me, is PA about adding to what music is, INSTEAD OF WAS, or are we just keeping up with the neighbors that seem to be adding more numbers than we are? I tend to think that we have been siding with the numbers, not the music, and many folks should have been invited and there already, were it all a simple appreciation for the music ... which would have added some works that keep getting refused, and sometimes don't deserve to. MEATLOAF is one, but I'm not sure he cares what folks think ... he was abused so badly in the early days, until all of a sudden BOOH simply went nuts and became a huge album ... and some of its material is still fresh and sounds magnificent ... but sady ... it doesn't have all the details that some of the groupings that PA has, requires and some folks seem to be voting on their preference, not on the details. Likewise THE GRATEFUL DEAD would also have been added a long time ago, for their musicianship alone, and their "touch" and incredible history to the development of the "progressive" thing, which many seem to not pay attention to and the band was one of the first doing many of the things that we think/thought were important.

I've given up fighting for the underdog. At my age, that fight ends up seemingly a lost cause, and your muscles and bones, don't want to care anymore. But, I think that the OPPORTUNITY to help the genre, and develop it further, is in the hands of the folks in the court ... as the movie says ... "too many notes" ... and everyone looks at each other and agree. It's not about the music at all ... because if it were folks would recognize great works all along ... it's very simple ... but not enough to know when someone is adventurous and creative, instead of just a copy! AND a copy of an idea at that!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 hours 3 minutes ago at 06:35
Hi,

Maybe PA should/could create a special definition for bands that are not considered progressive, but have the talent and ability, to be recognized. Even that Hall of a Joke has done that for bands that were not given status, but in the end have been given a nod of appreciation, which the Oscar has also done for folks that have been huge in the history of cinema, but never got an award.

Oh well ... nice thought ... I don't want PA to think I don't care. I have a lot more than they can appreciate and have been at the forefront of "progressive" since at least 1968 or 1969 ... and I never learned how to give it up ... and still fight for a lot of it! Sometimes it feels fruitless, but seeing the music remembered and appreciated is something that my heart wants to appreciate as much as its blood flows.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 hours 37 minutes ago at 07:01
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

And I thought personal attacks were not allowed at PA.
You arrived a little late to the party. This thread was started by "Logan Rat Moron" (his profile pic was of an ugly, hairless rat or something) aka Svetonio, and it only featured images of Swans. So that was the personal attack.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 hours 30 minutes ago at 07:08
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 hours 27 minutes ago at 07:11
^^I guess I was late to the party. Maybe this thread should have been deleted instead of more personal attacks?

Edited by Grumpyprogfan - 17 hours 27 minutes ago at 07:11
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 hours 23 minutes ago at 07:15
What's the beef anyway, that Swans are included but other artists aren't?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 hours 6 minutes ago at 07:32
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

What's the beef anyway, that Swans are included but other artists aren't?


His beef is with the admins, especially Greg (Logan).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 hours 47 minutes ago at 07:51
I don't have my laptop with me as I'm traveling so my admin ability is limited at the moment.

Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - 16 hours 47 minutes ago at 07:51
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 hours 42 minutes ago at 07:56
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I don't have my laptop with me as I'm traveling so my admin ability is limited at the moment.

I think logan dealt with it already.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 hours 35 minutes ago at 08:03
There's a few for me:

Chicago
Traffic
The Doors (proto anyway)
Journey (pre Steve Perry era)
Iron Maiden (some of it anyway)
Styx (some of it)
Santana (some of it)
Led Zeppelin (some)
Black Sabbath (some)
The Tubes (some stuff is very proggy and it's a shame they aren't at least prog related on here)



Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - 16 hours 33 minutes ago at 08:05
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 hours 30 minutes ago at 08:08
I must have missed the original post. I see cstack as the thread starter. I know about Svetty. Was his latest account deleted? I saw one really strange post by Loganrat whatever a couple of weeks ago or so but didn't think too much of it. I smelled a rat nonetheless.

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - 16 hours 28 minutes ago at 08:10
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