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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2013 at 18:58
"Toccata". Just mad.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2013 at 02:02
Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

Toccata is a great track of course, intense and dynamic, but I am voting for Abaddon's Bolero because I think using it as the closer for Trilogy was a masterstroke.  The musicianship is not flashy but it is of high quality - this is above all a composition and it shows off the musicality of the band.  The slow build-up is ingenious and it caps a great album off with a great crescendo.  This is the way all good boleroes should be.

nice to read a positive comment about it. I always loved that crescendo ..  well actually there are two crescendos for the price of oneClap Emerson was very good at this sort of thing as evidenced by his tweeking of Mars The Bringer Of War on the ELPowell album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2013 at 19:37
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

Toccata is a great track of course, intense and dynamic, but I am voting for Abaddon's Bolero because I think using it as the closer for Trilogy was a masterstroke.  The musicianship is not flashy but it is of high quality - this is above all a composition and it shows off the musicality of the band.  The slow build-up is ingenious and it caps a great album off with a great crescendo.  This is the way all good boleroes should be.

nice to read a positive comment about it. I always loved that crescendo ..  well actually there are two crescendos for the price of oneClap Emerson was very good at this sort of thing as evidenced by his tweeking of Mars The Bringer Of War on the ELPowell album.


For me the thing with Bolero is that whenever I hear it, I just wish I was hearing Ravel's bolero instead.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2013 at 03:02
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

Toccata is a great track of course, intense and dynamic, but I am voting for Abaddon's Bolero because I think using it as the closer for Trilogy was a masterstroke.  The musicianship is not flashy but it is of high quality - this is above all a composition and it shows off the musicality of the band.  The slow build-up is ingenious and it caps a great album off with a great crescendo.  This is the way all good boleroes should be.

nice to read a positive comment about it. I always loved that crescendo ..  well actually there are two crescendos for the price of oneClap Emerson was very good at this sort of thing as evidenced by his tweeking of Mars The Bringer Of War on the ELPowell album.


For me the thing with Bolero is that whenever I hear it, I just wish I was hearing Ravel's bolero instead.


I can only picture Torvill and Dean though when I hear Ravel's Bolero while AB conjures up dark images of demons rising from hellTongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2013 at 03:14
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2013 at 03:31
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

Toccata is a great track of course, intense and dynamic, but I am voting for Abaddon's Bolero because I think using it as the closer for Trilogy was a masterstroke.  The musicianship is not flashy but it is of high quality - this is above all a composition and it shows off the musicality of the band.  The slow build-up is ingenious and it caps a great album off with a great crescendo.  This is the way all good boleroes should be.

nice to read a positive comment about it. I always loved that crescendo ..  well actually there are two crescendos for the price of oneClap Emerson was very good at this sort of thing as evidenced by his tweeking of Mars The Bringer Of War on the ELPowell album.


For me the thing with Bolero is that whenever I hear it, I just wish I was hearing Ravel's bolero instead.


I can only picture Torvill and Dean though when I hear Ravel's Bolero while AB conjures up dark images of demons rising from hellTongue


Notwitstanding the gauche pun (A Bad Un's Bolero) In a vision in the New Testament Book of Revelation an angel called Abaddon is shown as the king of an army of locusts, which in Greek means the Destroyer i.e someone you would prefer NOT to date yer sister
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2013 at 03:32
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

Toccata is a great track of course, intense and dynamic, but I am voting for Abaddon's Bolero because I think using it as the closer for Trilogy was a masterstroke.  The musicianship is not flashy but it is of high quality - this is above all a composition and it shows off the musicality of the band.  The slow build-up is ingenious and it caps a great album off with a great crescendo.  This is the way all good boleroes should be.

nice to read a positive comment about it. I always loved that crescendo ..  well actually there are two crescendos for the price of oneClap Emerson was very good at this sort of thing as evidenced by his tweeking of Mars The Bringer Of War on the ELPowell album.


For me the thing with Bolero is that whenever I hear it, I just wish I was hearing Ravel's bolero instead.


I can only picture Torvill and Dean though when I hear Ravel's Bolero while AB conjures up dark images of demons rising from hellTongue


Notwitstanding the gauche pun (A Bad Un's Bolero) In a vision in the New Testament Book of Revelation an angel called Abaddon is shown as the king of an army of locusts, which in Greek means the Destroyer i.e someone you would prefer NOT to date yer sister

There used to be a member of an heavy metal band who called himself 'Abaddon'. Can't remember the band but it amused me when I saw him being interviewed on TV. Wasn't that scaryLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2013 at 20:39
I guess it would have been really cool if ELP had actually done a cover of Ravel's Bolero... though given that that piece relies on the same melody being played by many different instruments from the orchestra, it might have been way too repetitive.
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