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Points: 11985 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2006 at 20:38
Originally posted by MajesterX MajesterX wrote:


Originally posted by juanvalverde juanvalverde wrote:

i dont see why we cant make any more dream theater threads.....
you can, but many people (including myself) won't like it because there are around 4 dream theater threads a day and we are all getting sick of them, so if you want to be respected more by many of the forumers, don't make another dream theater thread for a while.


Interesting to see that you have elected yourself spokesperson for the people....

    
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Points: 976 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2006 at 20:23
Pretty injust these responses about another topic talking of Dream Theater.

I didnīt said how Dream Theater is great neither how Dream Theater is not prog. I asked an advice about their other albuns.

Dream Theater topics bore me when they are made just to say they are the best or they are the worst. As all topics asking if band X is prog or not.

If you donīt like Dream Theater topics, donīt read them. And be civilized next time.
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I love Dream Theater, and I will never hate them,
but if people keep making threads of DT, the ones that barely like them will get sick of them without hearing it.
I still can't get how Dream Theater music is created by humans

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Points: 513 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2006 at 19:31
Originally posted by juanvalverde juanvalverde wrote:

i dont see why we cant make any more dream theater threads.....


you can, but many people (including myself) won't like it because there are around 4 dream theater threads a day and we are all getting sick of them, so if you want to be respected more by many of the forumers, don't make another dream theater thread for a while.
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Points: 42 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2006 at 19:18
i dont see why we cant make any more dream theater threads.....
Dream Theater made me listen to Rush,Yes, ELP, Genesis.. That must count for something!
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I hope Rafaella doesn't faint after she sees the title of this thread.
 
On a casual level some of the structure of Images and Words may seem formulatic, but the album has many techinques such as odd-timed turnarounds, dynamnic contrast, tonal contrast, constant unison instrumental modulations, and key changes which are complex techinques of songwriting that no one could do by accident. 
 
Other Dream Theater albums have much different structure most notably Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, in which the first disc is amongst the most creative and imaginative of both the band and the genre.

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yeah, that's kinda true... still a masterpiece IMO. Aside form structure the songs develop into very complex and varied soundscapes, most notably Learning To Live...Clap which doesn't really follow that structure, it ends with a long orgasmic instrumental section. One of their finest moments surely!

And on other albums it's very different. I&W is probably their most cliched album... it's very different on later works like Awake, SFAM or 6DOIT.


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Originally posted by akin akin wrote:



Are the other albuns the same thing? All their longer songs are made over this formula?


No. No. Many of their songs do not follow and sort of formula, they just do what they want and what they feel is best.

oh, and please don't make more dream theater threads.


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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2006 at 18:23
Funny, I've been listening to that album for almost 15 years and I still haven't lost interest.
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Points: 976 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2006 at 17:35
I'm not much into Dream Theater music, but one thing that bores me in Images and Words is that all the long songs seems to be a "magic formula": a intro with some guitar and keyboard, main riffs during the verses and chorus then a long instrumental interlude with many solos. Near the end returns the verse/chorus section to finish the song.

Not that it is bad, but most of songs follow this structure. The result is the losing of interest in the album. When I first heard Learning to Live, it seemed a great song. Listening it in the album, it doesn't seem so great, because at the time it starts, I'm already bored with the same structure.

Are the other albuns the same thing? All their longer songs are made over this formula?
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