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    Posted: July 08 2005 at 12:04

Wakemen's solo's are very melodic, and he plays very catchy tasteful lines. He is technically very very good.

Emerson's solo's might be technically better, but for me personally, they're less enjoyable.

I like Wakemen, but i really need to listen to more ELP, i've only heard Brain Salad Surgery.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2005 at 10:29
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2005 at 08:39
WAKEMAN no doubt about it. But Emerson is incredible, a maestro in its
own right
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2005 at 02:47

What has Wakemans Christianity got to do with it ?

Hang on....he supports Manchester City.....EMERSON FOR ME THEN 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 23:48
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 22:40

In solo projects, at a band (Strawbs or Yes), on stage or anywhere RICK WAKEMAN.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 20:52

Who in christs name is Kerry Minear...?

It can only be Emerson.............Wakeman is a brilliant keyboard player but he ain't flamboyant, also he's a christian, and i'm a roman.....now where the hell are those lions??????????

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2005 at 16:40
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He was more creative in his music and after listening to him at the Isle of Wight Festival 1970 theres no way i could pick Wakeman.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2005 at 16:04

Jon Lord was a masterfull hammond organ player for sure,but hardly made much of a name on other keyboard instruments.Emerson rated him very highly which is great praise in my book

Also (in case I havn't mentioned him already) Vincent Crane of Atomic Rooster was a great Hammond specialist.Certainly up there with Lord.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2005 at 11:49

both are great

but i always prefer to my idol....

the keyboard wizard!!!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2005 at 11:10
Just to add my opinion for what it's worth. Ultimately I prefer the music Wakeman contributed to the Yes sound in their 70's glory days, but I sense that in a "sprint" competition Emo might have been the slightly fatster (& maybe better) soloist. Overall Rick just wins it because of his tremendous contribution to the Yes group sound on their great albums like CTTE, GFTO; whereas I always though ELP was EMO plus a (very good) backing band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2005 at 11:04
Originally posted by Mr. Floyd Mr. Floyd wrote:

Originally posted by BiGi BiGi wrote:

And concerning technical skills, my pick will always be Jon Lord!


Jon Lord was a Prog Musician at the begginning, and was leading Deep Purple into that way, but I don't know if we could compare him with Emerson and Wakeman wich are purely prog.


Have a go with the harpsichord solo in Rat Bat Blue and you'll tell me!
Ok, Deep Purple haven't been prog since the Concert for group and orchestra but in my opinion Jon Lord ranks #1 keyboard player in all genres!
As for his technique and the clarity of his sound, my guess is nobody can challenge him!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2005 at 10:56
  I agree with Lyzarrd on the idea that Wakeman and Emerson fall into different categories. Emerson was more essential to ELP, but Wakeman added the flare that helped Yes produce some of the considerable classics (Roundabout, CTTE,  etc. ) ELP was dependant on Emerson (although there was some collaboration) whereas Wakeman worked in more of a collaboration with the other band members to create music I enjoy slightly more than ELP material I've heard. So, in conclusion, I believe that Emerson's the better keyboardist, although I enjoy the "Wakeman era(s)" of Yes more. Oh, and hello (great site!)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2005 at 09:55

Originally posted by BiGi BiGi wrote:

And concerning technical skills, my pick will always be Jon Lord!

Jon Lord was a Prog Musician at the begginning, and was leading Deep Purple into that way, but I don't know if we could compare him with Emerson and Wakeman wich are purely prog.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2005 at 05:42
I think Emerson's technique is superior, but he's far less melodic than Wakeman, and this scores a goal for the latter!

Besides this, neither of them is able to give me the same thrills Tony Banks can conjure!
And concerning technical skills, my pick will always be Jon Lord!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2005 at 03:22
Correct. ELP was "Emo's band." He's responsible for the trio's sound, through and through (which means he's also responsible for 95% of the cheese, but at least he was doing something). Yes was there before Rick, but once the band had him in their sights, they knew it was Rick who'd give them the kick in the ass they needed. Howe had replaced Banks, and with Wakeman replacing Kaye, the formula to really kick some symphonic prog ass was in place. Relayer and Drama were excellent detours that wouldn't have happened with Rick; I love those albums, and wouldn't change a note on either. The '80s Yes (aka Cinema) was a decidedly different animal that no longer revolved around virtuosity and epics, really (with the token exception) but riffs and hooks. Kaye's keyboard work was strictly complementary, and he only played Hammond on Talk; Trevor handled the rest of the chores. The studio material on the KTA albums was great. Hence, we got two full albums' worth of new music with Rick. Rick got pissed off (for good reason) and left again, saying he'd never return (though he did, because apparently his ego isn't that  big, and the guys wanted/needed him back). Yes got really lucky finding a guy like Igor in the interim, but he was gone after one album and tour. They needed Wakeman back afterward, and it was never more obvious. I hope they record a studio album with Rick.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2005 at 03:09

It is fairly obvious for RichardH and Three Fates to vote for Emerson - when ELP is their favourite artist........

Tony banks, Badens and Par Lindh are all underrated - they have produced sublime keyboard moments - just as fine as the Caped crusader and Emerson.

But Wakeman must get the nod here - He produced FAR more QUALITY than Emerson - and if anybody cannot see that then they are just BLINKERED !!!!

Wakeman - better composer for sure, more quality and more able to add to a band sound....

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2005 at 02:54
Originally posted by Tenorsaxman89 Tenorsaxman89 wrote:

Emerson is more technical, Wakeman is more inventive.  . 

 

 

Actually I believe it to be the other way round,which is why I'm an ELP fan.Wakeman was very fluid as a player (more so than Emerson) but Emerson was full of ideas and inventiveness,escpecially in the period 1970-1973.ELP would have been nothing without Emo coming up with so many great ideas.Greg Lake was an excellent singer,guitarist and wrote some good songs but could never have carried the band.Carl Palmer was a 'technician' solely.The creative force in ELP was Emerson.Emerson carried the band.Yes on the other hand have always existed quite happily without Wakeman,both live and studiowise.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2005 at 01:59
Originally posted by dropForge dropForge wrote:

Originally posted by Tenorsaxman89 Tenorsaxman89 wrote:

Emerson is my favorite though, simply because he was able to keep his ego in check.

(He don't know ELP vewy well...do he?)

ha ha.  a least his ego was tolerable from 1967-1974 when he was still making great great great music.

since 74 -  (although Works 1 has its moments)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2005 at 01:41

Originally posted by Tenorsaxman89 Tenorsaxman89 wrote:

Emerson is my favorite though, simply because he was able to keep his ego in check.

(He don't know ELP vewy well...do he?)

Originally posted by Tenorsaxman89 Tenorsaxman89 wrote:

Don't forget Patrick Moraz

For that matter, don't forget David Sancious.

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