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Ten studio albums from 1987, and ten from 1997
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Poll Question: If you have a preference, which of these do you prefer?
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    Posted: March 09 2022 at 18:45
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

LOL So I'm thinking this is multiple choice like the "fives" poll. Good thing "Haxan" was my first(and only) vote. Very happy to have it at number one. I was going with a top three including Secrtets Of The Beehive and F#A#...
I had more favourites on the "Fives" apparently. 


Good to see you again. I thought about enabling multiple votes. I too have more favourites in the other poll as with this I listed my favourites along with ones that I know are highly regarded by others, and in the other I really like all of the albums. Also, when narrowing the choices down to five per year, even if just choosing from my own faves, chances are that every one will be of more value to me, and neither 1987 nor 1997 are nearly as well-represented in my collection as many other years. I still left off one I really care about to include ones that I thought would appeal to different audiences.
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LOL So I'm thinking this is multiple choice like the "fives" poll. Good thing "Haxan" was my first(and only) vote. Very happy to have it at number one. I was going with a top three including Secrtets Of The Beehive and F#A#...
I had more favourites on the "Fives" apparently. 
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Oh wow, great to see Stereolab in one of these polls - love that album!  (John McEntire has some hand in that!)  Robert Wyatt second from the 90s; Art Zoyd for the 80s.
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I didn't really have much more to add to Drew's (BrufordFreak's) "why aren't they in the PA database? " question about Stereolab that I didn't already say in response in the following linked thread: Why, again, is Stereolab not included in PA? (CLICK)

I don't think of it as Prog genre really, more art/indie pop and even progressive pop with retro qualities where lounge meets Krautrock and the like. I love Stereolab. Aside from likening it to acts in PA such as Can and Neu!, I also liked it to things like Serge Gainsbourg, whose Histoire de Melody Nelson is definitely at least prog related to me. It is progressive in its retro way in the 90s going up, and Stereolab has inspired various later bands that I really like (Vanishing Twin, Melody's Echo Chamber methinks -- along with the likes of Pram and Broadcast). In a way, Stereolab rather seems almost too hip for PA, like with Broadcast, Pram, Velvet Underground, Nico, Serge Gainsbourg, Portishead....) I much prefer such music to typical kinds of mainstream modern Prog that may not be progressive (adjective), such as The Flower Kings and a lot of AORish kinds of Prog that are not my thing.

By the way, Stereolab was suggested to PA some years ago: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=111035 (to Prog Related), but getting in there and getting checked has its own special process, and I would have had Crossover check it out first.

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Yeah, I'm a little surprised as well that Stereolab aren't on here. They'd make a good inclusion for post/math or crossover prog... sadly, I'm not a part of either of those teams LOL

BUT, maybe I can suggest them to those teams and see what happens Smile
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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:


Similar things could be said about my 1997-list + Stereolab is the ultimate progressive rock band to my ears.

Here, Here! So why aren't they in the PA database? 
They're even referenced in the definition of Post Rock on the Post Rock/Math Rock page!!!

I should have added "for it's era" after "the ultimate progressive rock band". Because that was what I actually meant. Listening to all their albums from 1993's Peng! & Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements and well into the 00's - no other band that I can think of took what progressive rock once was - and pushed it forward into the future quite like them. At least not with an actual listening audience going to their concerts and buying their albums. Certainly moreso than the PA-celebrated bands Anglagard and Anekdoten (I quite like them both still). Like Logan, it's not a big issue for me that they are not on PA, and I'm sure the band themselves couldn't care less.

I don't mind good, retro-sounding progrock at all (it's obviously made out of love for the music), and there's very little I would have enjoyed more than being in a band that sounded like we made 1970's/1980's Giallo-scores for Dario Argento and Lucio Fulci. But as a listener I usually find myself more intrigued by "progressive" rather than "prog".
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Of the list, I'll have to go with Godspeed's F#A#... absolute masterpiece.

I guess I'll take a crack at my own 1987 and 1997 lists. I'm assuming we don't have to use strictly PA bands/artists, right? Because I'll definitely be including some stuff that's not on the site.
 
1987 (in no order):

Voivod - Killing Technology
Prince - Sign O' the Times
Anthrax - Among the Living
Marillion - Clutching at Straws
Michael Jackson - Bad
Rush - Hold Your Fire
Testament - The Legacy
Savatage - Hall of the Mountain King
Candlemass - Nightfall
King Diamond - Abigail 

1997 (again, in no order):

Godspeed You! Black Emperor - F♯ A♯ ∞
Bjork - Homogenic
Radiohead - OK Computer
Portishead - Dummy
Incubus - SCIENCE
Opeth - Morningrise
Devin Townsend - Ocean Machine: Biomech
Foo Fighters - The Colour and the Shape
Janet Jackson - The Velvet Rope
Children of Bodom - Something Wild

And a few honorable mentions for 1997, because it's one of my favorite years in music:

Deftones - Around the Fur
Enya - Paint the Sky with Stars
Blur - Blur
Shania Twain - Come On Over (laugh all you want, but don't knock it until you try it LOL)
Hammerfall - Glory to the Brave
Voivod - Phobos
Stratovarius - Visions
Helmet - Aftertaste
Threshold - Extinct Instinct 
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Radiohead for sure. So much fun when they were being compared to Yes, Genesis and Floyd in some magazines. HAH!



Anyway, I think I have to go with Haxan here. One of my favorite AZ's. Not actually familiar with Berlin. Moonsongs is ok. Prefer the remix on the later versions of In this Life


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Tough call. 

Berlin, Marillion, Thinking Plague, and Godspeed, all are legitimate contenders. 

I'll go with TP this time. 
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David  Sylvian- Secrets of the Beehive-  A MASTERPIECE ! For me his last great album before the music started a measured decline. Of course his work with Fripp, Gunn, Mastelotto- the Fripp and Sylvian release was equally mind blowing.
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Radiohead for sure. So much fun when they were being compared to Yes, Genesis and Floyd in some magazines. HAH!
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Of these, David Sylvian.
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Höyry-Kone followed by GYBE. 
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Shleep for me.

Another Stereolab fan here. Dots and Loops is a collaboration with Tortoise that I particularly like, although I don't think that their Krautrock/easy listening mash up really fits in to PA.
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I love most of these albums, and I would say that those two Art Zoyd albums have been my traditional faves of their respective years. I gave the Swans a vote.

As for the issue of Stereolab, and I think this came up before, to me it is a kind of Crossover / Prog Related band, which obviously has been influenced by Krautrock such as Can and Neu! To know why it is not in PA, one would have to research (do searches to look through the history). I don't care if it's in or not as that has no effect on my enjoyment and I am not much a of a reviewer. Also, Pram, Broadcast and Stereolab (especially with Third) are related to me, and are as relevant as say Björk - is and there are stylistic overlaps with Swans and Radiohead material. They all have kinds of Crossover qualities to me.

Often something is or isn't included because of the quality of the suggestion threads, the general interest of PA forum members, the team members at the time and so on. Had I known Stereolab 14 or so years ago when I was making lots of suggestions, then I might have made a topic on it ad tried to convince people of its merits, but I put it more in the art pop/ indie pop realm than Prog Rock. Musically, I do put under a greater sort of prog umbrella, but its not something that I would want to suggest to PA or really offer my support for. I love Stereolab albums, and again, I won't enjoy the band more if it is in the archives, and I can talk about in the forums if it is or isn't included.
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These are two of the best Art Zoyd albums, and as such, somewhat boringly, I'd list them as number 1 and 2 in this poll, Haxan first (just about).
Further favourites: David Sylvian, Dead Can Dance, Swans, Thinking Plague, Bjork, GSYBE, Radiohead and Robert Wyatt.
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