Bands that could have been successful, but weren't |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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It was for Dream Theater. Anyway, that particular album is from the late 90's.
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Awesoreno
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I think what puts DT well over the edge is that they were way bigger worldwide than PT. Being metal for longer (or at all, depending on who you ask) certainly helped.
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POTA
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I don't know, but I think mid-90s wasn't optimal.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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When would have been the right time?
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A Crimson Mellotron
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Absolutely! Comus should have been a much more recognisable band. I find 'First Utterance' to be one of the finest moments of 70s folk/prog. A more recent band that comes to my mind is Beardfish. Even Between the Buried and Me which have the potential to be much bigger.
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POTA
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Cairo for sure, if not for Mark Robertson's virtuosic keyboard playing alone. They were top shelf but just came out at the wrong time.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Well, they never quite became a household name like Radiohead, Coldplay or Muse if that's what you mean. But yeah I think you get what I meant and I agree. However, I would say they became nearly as big(maybe as big) as Dream Theater at one point. DT has the advantage of still being around but that's not always a good thing since it depends on the quality of the output and DT it seems hit their peak a long time ago.
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FatherChristmas
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True, I should have said more clearly - commercially, PT were not incredibly successful. They certainly were in that they are quite famous and have a fairly large fanbase.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Porcupine Tree are pretty well known even outside of prog circles. I would say most metal fans know about them and many are into them. In fact many consider them metal. I was looking up one of their earlier more rare albums on ebay recently and some of the sellers had it as "metal" under genre.
Anyway, it depends on what we mean by successful. Some of the bands mentioned in this thread have been successful. Sometimes it amazes me that Yes became as big as they did considering what they were doing musically. It's not all about getting your song on the radio. Porcupine Tree weren't played much on the radio(I actually only heard them played on the radio once and that was sort of in the middle of their career just after IA)and neither were the Mars Volta. Only a few prog bands get to rise above the others. It's the same in most genres. These days Big Big Train seem to be one of them but there's a few others(mostly ones with a metally sound).
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FatherChristmas
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This does not change my opinion. I know (as you also most likely know) countless pop bands/artists that were successful and never wrote a single song themselves (relying on other songwriters). I think some PT could have been a lot more successful - In Absentia, for instance, didn't even chart in the UK, and that's the one that sold more than triple of their past albums (not put together). It is, however, ultimately just my opinion. That's all I will say.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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This is an insult to better bands with a weaker marketing team.
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Jade Warrior perhaps. They never had the record label support that some other bands had.
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A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now)
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Cristi
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PT were successful, they could have been bigger, but then again, and i mean no offense, the average listener, the causual listener will not touch a band like PT.
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FatherChristmas
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Sorry, but got to revive this thread just to say...
Porcupine Tree!!!
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FatherChristmas
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Success as in commercial success.
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FatherChristmas
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If all these great bands posted here that in theory should have been successful were, I reckon we'd be living in a parallel universe.
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Psychedelic Paul
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England and Fantasy, to name just two of hundreds of British bands who should have been successful but weren't, many of whom I've featured in my Prog Britannia blog, although I wouldn't describe Caravan as an unsuccessful band in all honesty, as they have achieved a modicum of success and well-deserved recognition. After all, they were one of the few bands I'd actually heard of long before I discovered ProgArchives back in 2010, although I had no idea they were part of the Canterbury Scene at the time.
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FatherChristmas
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Not to mention having a brilliant guitarist.
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Psychedelic Paul
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I'm a true blue fan of Ocean Colour Scene too. I have all but one of their albums in my CD collection.
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FatherChristmas
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Nothing to do with prog, really, but I think Ocean Colour Scene deserve a mention. Not that they weren't successful - they had a number one album in '97 - but after that they sort of disappeared. It's a shame, they had loads of potential.
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