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ExittheLemming 
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Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
 Posted: March 12 2022 at 08:52 |
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'American democracy seems to mean America picks who runs your democracy' |
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SteveG
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Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
Posted: March 12 2022 at 07:01 |
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Deleted - old news.
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tszirmay
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 17 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 6673 |
Posted: March 12 2022 at 06:49 |
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“Since 1945, the international community has built up a set of rules governing how states interact with one another. This is built on the principles of sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence. As shown, every invasions is, by definition, a violation of sovereignty. What sets them apart from each other is the extent to which they may violate the other two principles. As shown, however, while Western interventions may have violated two of the three principles, and even then in ways that did not necessarily benefit intervening countries directly, none of its actions went against all three of these basic tenets of international relations. In contrast, Russia has entirely ignored all of them - and has done so for its own benefit. The fact that President Putin has implicitly threatened to use nuclear weapons if NATO or any power directly intervenes to help Ukraine makes it all the more troubling. To this extent, Russia's war against Ukraine goes far further than anything we have seen in the post-Cold War Era. Indeed, it threatens to fundamentally undermine the entire system of international relations established after the Second World War”
Prof James Ker-Lindsay
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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moshkito
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Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Online Points: 18488 |
Posted: March 12 2022 at 05:57 |
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Hi, I'm scared when you hear things like this. A lot of the arts for many eons has been a sort of revolt against the establishment, and in our rage with the machine, we don't care if what we are putting down is the wrong thing at all! I can't help think of that girl band, that was jailed, and I bet raped, and taken advantage of many times, and they will never see the light of day, because you know they will let us know exactly what happened ... and the sad world they fought against, and will die for it! I don't understand how in one breadth we "love the art" and in the next breadth we "hate the art" and immediately kill for it ... I keep thinking of zombie movies ... and we don't know what survival of the meaningful is all about at all ... it's all about the rage WITH the machine ... not against it, the very same overlords that will undo us all!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
www.pedrosena.com |
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jamesbaldwin
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Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
Posted: March 12 2022 at 05:40 |
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In Italy, the famous writer Paolo Nori had to give a lecture on Dostoevsky, I don't remember if in a university. They canceled it when sanctions against Russia came into effect. Then, after the protests of many intellectuals, they changed their minds. But at that point Nori refused to do it. This is another symptom of what it means to enter into a logic of war, in an anti-Russian propaganda. |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Archisorcerus
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Joined: February 02 2022 Location: Izmir Status: Offline Points: 2731 |
Posted: March 12 2022 at 04:32 |
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^ Well, Dostoyevski is also dead.
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Lewian
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Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15387 |
Posted: March 12 2022 at 04:21 |
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Did anyone seriously suggest that Russian composers already dead when Putin came to power should be boycotted?
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Archisorcerus
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Joined: February 02 2022 Location: Izmir Status: Offline Points: 2731 |
Posted: March 12 2022 at 03:59 |
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British orchestras will not boycott Russian composers as their work is “intrinsic to the historical canon of Western classical music”
Source: https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1502560217795547136 Edited by Archisorcerus - March 12 2022 at 04:00 |
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Lewian
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Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15387 |
Posted: March 12 2022 at 03:39 |
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I'd probably agree with that, given the situation is as it is today, with Putin threatening military action in that case. But don't forget that the Swedish historical experience is very different from the Estonian, Moldovan, Polish one. Sweden has much less reason to feel herself directly threatened by Russian than the Baltic states, and that's not because the Baltic countries joined NATO. I hope a lot that Putin will not target these countries at some point, but if he does, this will put Sweden in a very difficult situation also as non-NATO member. It is a fine line for Sweden, and things may play out either way in either case.
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Easy Money
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10732 |
Posted: March 11 2022 at 19:59 |
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Jaketejas
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Joined: March 27 2018 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2194 |
Posted: March 11 2022 at 19:31 |
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Will find a way to help! |
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Easy Money
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10732 |
Posted: March 11 2022 at 18:23 |
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Easy Money
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10732 |
Posted: March 11 2022 at 18:22 |
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What it is like to be a fleeing refugee from the perspective of a young boy:
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jamesbaldwin
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Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
Posted: March 11 2022 at 18:18 |
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The president of Sweden, Magdalena Andersson, said that Sweden will not ask to join NATO to avoid further destabilizing the European balance. This decision seems very wise to me. And it was made against Swedish polls, which see an increase in requests to join NATO after Putin's threats.
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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JD
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Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
Posted: March 11 2022 at 18:14 |
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Thank you for supporting independently produced music
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Jaketejas
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Joined: March 27 2018 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2194 |
Posted: March 11 2022 at 17:51 |
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I like the idea of your starting a new thread specifically geared to these efforts, one that is monitored, because I think this thread is going to careen over a cliff. |
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Easy Money
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10732 |
Posted: March 11 2022 at 17:47 |
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My brother-in-law lived in Vietnam during the war. He said one of the best relief organizations he encountered for cutting red tape and effectively getting help to those that need it was this Christian group, World Vision:
https://www.worldvision.org/disaster-relief-news-stories/ukraine-crisis-facts-faqs-and-how-to-help Edited by Easy Money - March 11 2022 at 17:49 |
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jamesbaldwin
Prog Reviewer
Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
Posted: March 11 2022 at 17:32 |
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IN ITALY THE CASE OF PROFESSOR ORSINI BREAKS: I WARNED THE PARLIAMENT OF AN IMMINENT WAR IN UKRAINE IN 2018 Over the past week, Italian news has been revolving around Professor Alessandro Orsini, who has made several television appearances. In particular, on Wednesday 3 March, Orsini says in this video: - the military responsibility for the war lies with Putin and I condemn the invasion of Ukraine, I am with Ukraine and the West - the political responsibilities of this war, however, lie in a large part of Europe, because military powers such as the USA and Russia do not admit hostile states around them: Russia does not admit pro-American Ukraine just as the USA would not admit a Canada or a Pro-Soviet Mexico. Orsini says that if Mexico allies itself with Moscow, the US would assassinate its president or cause a Mexican civil war with the CIA, or directly wage war on Mexico. (Just think what Kennedy did with Castro about missiles in Cuba: he would never allow them, under any conditions). - Putin has neither the intentions nor the means to invade Poland or other Eastern European states - the European Union made a mistake because it does not have a policy of its own, it does not have "red lines" which must not be crossed, undermined by other powers. The US has Israel as its red line, Russia has Ukraine and Georgia as its red line. The European Union should think about avoiding a war in Europe, so it should not allow NATO to decide how to deal with the states of Eastern Europe. He says this by specifying that he studied in America, that he loves the US and that he learned from Americans to think about safeguarding the well-being of their nation. After this speech, the University where Orsini teaches made a statement against him, saying that he does not represent the University's thinking, and that Orsini cannot speak in public if he does not take sides in favor of Ukraine (as he actually had done immediately, in the premises). Many university professors have defended Orsini, also thanks to a petition that has collected many signatures. On Wednesday 10 March Orsini returned to the same TV show, and explained his thoughts better: - the West (USA, and Europe) does not know that between June and September 2021, NATO carried out three enormous military exercises: "Sea Breeze", "Three Swords", "Rapid Trident" along the Ukrainian front, which they unleashed Putin's reaction. Where were the Europeans when NATO carried out these exercises that unleashed Putin's wrath? - economic sanctions have historically never been of any use, and in particular the sanctions placed by Europe on Russia will end up damaging the whole of Europe - Arms sales to Ukraine will make the war an even greater slaughter - The US with Trump wanted to wage war on North Korea and Venezuela, but when the generals told Trump that the war in Korea would cost many American lives, and the war on Venezuela was too close to home, Trump gave up. The European Union should learn from the US: avoid wars close to home, safeguard our European lives. - The European Union has FAILED, because it had to prevent wars in Europe, and instead is now selling arms to Ukraine! What has the European Union done in recent years? On December 4th 2018 Orsinsi was invited to speak in the Senate and he said that Russia was about to break through the Ukrainian front. Nobody did anything, indeed, in 2021 we allowed the Americans to organize three huge exercises on the Ukrainian front. Europe failed. Now, the next war will be on the Georgia front. Edited by jamesbaldwin - March 11 2022 at 17:39 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Meltdowner
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Posted: March 11 2022 at 16:48 |
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omphaloskepsis
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Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6878 |
Posted: March 11 2022 at 16:47 |
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I hope America and the UK open their doors to Ukrainian refugees. I've contacted my House representative and Senators pleading the Ukrainian refugee case.
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