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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2006 at 15:59
Originally posted by transend transend wrote:

Or how about that US band LANDSEND??

Heard they were good

60+ mins of MP3s at www.transendland.net

At least then people can judge for themselves eh?


Natural Selection is great .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2006 at 15:31

Or how about that US band LANDSEND??

Heard they were good

60+ mins of MP3s at www.transendland.net

At least then people can judge for themselves eh?

By the way, Discipline or Matthew Parmenter is my fave of the current crop of prog stuff..

But i also like: Flower kings, Cast, IQ, Mangala Vallis, Porcupine tree and DT

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2006 at 15:18
So much prog, so little time...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2006 at 12:41
I have send a message to my fellow collaborators to join my two threads about new prog and new symphonic rock so I am looking forward to their contributions/opinions ...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2006 at 12:38

What do people here think of Syzygy's album, The Allegory of Light? Sean Trane in his review said that while the music itself is good he did not enjoy it because it did not have even one minute of original music and everything on it was taken from somewhere else. I for one love that album very much, True I hear all the influences (and sometimes even more than mere influence) but I do think they have their own sound and that in the world of music today, this is a bright light shining through.

Speaking of Sean, where is he? I didn;t see him on this thread, or did I miss his post?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2006 at 12:09
Surely, a vast array of interests culminating in curiousity's apex, but I'll attempt to stand up to your requests:

I mostly like Pendragon, though I'm also suitable to hear from Echolyn, Anekdoten, Collage and Pallas.

All of which I professed to like have been heard on ProgArchives' mp3 stream (in exception to Pendragon and Collage, of which  I fortunately have them available to hear, at home, on  cd and  DVD, since PA doesn't have that many interesting songs to hear from those two).

It's always pleasant and appreciated to subject the newly born prog bands to the audience's delighted (or not) opinions, nonetheless, legends and ethereally superior veterans shouldn't suffer significant change in the assorted equilibrium.

It obviously depends on which band one is refering to, but overall, most emptions take place in two cd stores: one vibrant with bootlegs and rarities, though, relatively focused on metal, even if embracing many other different styles, as Yes and Rush can also there be found (and also Tool's Salival!!!); the other exclusively contains progressive rock - hence its name "ProgCds" - and 70's rock, whereas me and my brother have purchased what we considered very rare albums in Portugal, through ordering from foreign establishments and warehouses, including Pendragon's Liveosity!!.

Well, in jeopardy of exaggerating, ProgArchives is pratically my asylum from the world I've come to depict on another topic, thus, my second home.

Many other bands fail to appear in your list, as it's easily comprehend, of course, but I can always throw out my modest opinion on a few bands (don't know how much it'll contribute to): Andomeda (Sweden), Lord of Mushrooms (France - much better than the averagely stereotyped racial handicap), Little Atlas (USA - to support the general opinions), Oceansize (England), Spiraling (USA - not as intricate or appealing as the previous, perhaps), Forgotten Suns (Portugal - speaking of racial handicaps...), Apocaplypse (Brazil - not so much recent, though not that bad of a listen either, so as to retrieve recollections from Genesis, apart from the language sang, at some extent), Adagio (France - there is more to this band than the first track provided by the mp3 stream conveys, it seems), Frogg Café (USA), Stride (USA - a little better in comparison to what was here discussed towards Spiraling) and that's about all that imbues what I'm able to confide.

Also, thank you, Erik, for your contribution to the general knowledge on prog culture.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2006 at 12:09

It's true, if you want Seventies sounding prog like Genesis, Yes, ELP, King Crimson and Yes you always will be disappointed is you expect the same level from new bands. Nonetheless, if they manage to play at a decent level, to make pleasant songs and perhaps add some elements of their own, these bands could sound like a 'warm bath': Ubi Maior, La Maschera Di Cera, Maldoror, Like Wendy and Nexus. And some are really interesting like Little Tragedies and Nemo because of their innovative sound.

Out Of Myself by Riverside is one of the most compelling albums from the last five years (in my opinion) because it blends several styles and it has emotion!

Presto Ballet is good but indeed sometimes a bit close to progmetal but I like their dynamic and bombastic approach.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2006 at 11:26

Hello Carakhallo, I remember you from the Spanish prog thread .

Well I feel in some way like you, but as you said, I am of the ones who are able to not compare the new to the old. But I agree on the originality factor issue and the heard it before problem. There are however some new bands worthwell listening to which are presenting novel approaches to prog and hace this fresh new sound and not only in the symphonic prog genre - the list of bands mentioned earlier consist some of those and there are more. But there are those bands which are as you said not innovative and only redo what has been done before (in a good way, it nust be said) and yet I still manage to love and get excited when I hear them.

I Love Senogul, BTW.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2006 at 11:26
I think there is little point in trying to dig up as many minor prog bands as you can find. Most of them will probably disappoint you, anyway. To my opinion, the great progressive bands of the 1970s (the ones among this website's Top Twenty) have never been surpassed - although certain recent bands such as The Flower Kings and (especially) The Tangent are coming close.
Sit back, relax, enjoy the major bands and don't bother about small fry! Apart from progressive rock, there's a whole lot of OTHER fascinating music out there, you know!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2006 at 11:08

Thanks for starting interesting topics like this one, Erik!

I think the main problem when listening new prog bands is that we already know we are not going to find a new Genesis. They are not going to be as good as the old dinosaurs from the 70s, for sure. Of course, prog style has changed since then and, ironically, now it shows much more influences from different styles than ever (it is difficult to link certain bands to only one prog style). But perhaps we expect to find the old "pure-symphonic" style in the new bands... and that's when we get disappointed. Also, I think that when these new bands try to mimic the style from the 70s the result is a complete failure, since they don't sound the same... they sound too clean, too refined, maybe too harmless. And we find ourselves saying "There's nothing innovative here". So there's no way we can be satisfied!! 

At least this is what happens to me, it's difficult for me to find a band from this century that really moves me. I guess we must learn to enjoy what these people can offer, without trying to compare them to anyone. I know some of you are able to do it, I am on my way...

Finally, I can't let the opportunity go by, now we can listen to some mp3 samples from SENOGUL in Progarchives. Enjoy some new prog!

http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAN D.asp?band_id=2349

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2006 at 08:04
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

USA: Salem Hill/Presto Ballet/Echolyn/Glass Hammer

Received Presto Ballet's "Peace among the Ruins" today. My impression after listening to it only once is not entirely positive. It is a bit too hard/heavy to my liking. It borders to prog metal and is reminiscent of Dream Theater. But ok to me in smaller doses.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2006 at 04:50

I really like White Willow, Anekdoten and Echolyn.

Bands /artists that are likely to get a promotion in my test-taste laboratory: Salem Hill, Tim Morse, Neal Morse (no relation I suppose) and Moon Safari.

Haven't heard music of a lot of bands mentioned.

PA has become my main source for prog. It used to be iO-Pages (Dutch prog magazine), but PA is interactive and helps me more in finding new music, these days.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2006 at 04:46
How about A.C.T.?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2006 at 04:28

I own a Progfest video featuring Ars Nova, Solaris and .. White Willow, great vintage keyboard drenched progrock!

I would like to thank everybody for again joining this thread and good to notice that the new Italian progrock is so appreciated !

Chamberry, I will check out Menayeri + Asi somos !

Saludos, ciao, ayo, bey, salut, tot ziens ....  !

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2006 at 02:33
You may like to add White Willow to your list Erik, they have symphonic elements for sure.

I've heard of, but not heard any: Anti-Depressive Delivery

Bigelf aren't really symphonic prog, but I know you like them, so they're worth a mention anyway!

The Tangent is an obvious choice, don't forget them!

I've not heard the new The Syn album, so I cannot comment, but that maybe symphonic as well.

The Flower Kings are always releasing new stuff.

Moon Safari you've mentioned already I believe.

Circulus... hmm, they're more folk, but they have symphonic moments.

I've not heard it, but what about Star One?  I've not sure what style they are, but it's Arjen Anthony Lucassen of course.

I'm stuck now!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2006 at 01:53

For those who want to expand their knowledge of this particular field you can do the following using PA.

Go to Switch Index in the main page and click on it until you see:

then you'll arrive here:

http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp

here you can choose to filter the list by subgenre.

Pick the Symphonic prog here:

http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?style_id=4

A page will be open with the 100 highest rated symphonic albums.

Then you can filter it by year with the scroll down menu to the right of the subgenres menu.

This is for example the list for 2005:

http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?style_id=4&a mp;a mp;year=2005

You will see in the years 2000-2006 the majority of the albums discussed above.

A good way to start investigating bands. And when you get to know something and love it please come back here - How about this new prog rock? and here - I Recommend... and tell the rest of us about it, and publish a review.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2006 at 01:28

Well I love to know new bandsTongue I like the most you've mencioned.

Salem Hill: good symphonic band, I have one mp3 from the track "Blame"

Presto Ballet: Excellent band with an original style, I have some mp3 I downloaded from their official web site, High Recommednded!!!

Echolyn: I have only heard three mp3 from them "Make me sway", "How long have I waited" and "Mei Part 2", they really woth a listen. The only reason I do't have music from them is that it is so difficult to get in my country. Highly recommended especially the last release "The End is Beuatiful". Visit their web site there you can listen good material

Glass Hammer: Fascinating, technical, heterogenous and captive music. Highly recommended for every prog rock fan. Have 3 mp3 from them

Magenta: It's a good band but IMO it is not escencial, just fine. Sometimes their style gets bored.

Pendragon: Good but not my cup of tea... not very original.

Ayreon: Very innovative prog metal with a fusion of many influences from elements from every corner. I recommend "Human Equation". I don't lie by saying that this release changed my mind. So if you haven't heard it give it a try.

La mAschera di Cera: Good Italian band, you can download material from their official web site, traditional Italian Material with some dark infleunces. Defying sound!!!

Ubi Maior: EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT. Probably the most incredible Italian band from contemporary age. Finessey, eloquent, symphonic at its best!!!!

PFM, Le Orme and Banco: Legendary Symphinc. Their best material was in their first releases.

Nemo: Very promising band from France. Highly recommended!!! I have some tracks I have downloaded from their web site.

Solaris: I have listened very few from them but that was enough to realize I need them.

Gerard and Ars Nova. good but very overwhelming sound. Too many elements make their music chaotic. I don't mean thier bad but they are different. Recommended!!!

The rest of the bands are completly unknown to me

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2006 at 23:44
Originally posted by Space Dimentia Space Dimentia wrote:

You forgot Orphaned Land from Israel


Orphaned Land is a progressive metal band with world music elements.

Not symphonic prog at all.

edit:Sorry,I thought this was one of Erik's symphonic threads.
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2006 at 19:30

And:

Apogee

and

Versus X

both from Germany

and...........

........I think I'll recall some more as well later on...........

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2006 at 19:26

And I can recommend, apart from already mentionned bands:

Taal (France)

4/3 De Trio (France)

Grand Stand (Sweden)

Akacia (USA)

Aside Beside (France)

Cafeine (France)

Cast (Mexico)

Deus Ex Machina (Italy)

Ensemble Nimbus (Sweden)

Floating State (Italy)

Hamadryad (Canada)

Ken's Novel (Belgium)

Kopecky (USA)

Kotebel (Spain)

Krakatoa (USA)

Kvazar (Norway)

Moongarden (Italy)

Par Lindh Project (Sweden)

Parallel Mind (USA)

Quaser (Japan)

RC2 (Venezuela)

Spaced Out (Canada)

Talisma (Canada)

Tempano (Venezuela)

Trespass (Israel)

Visible Wind (Canada)

XII Alfonso (France)

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