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horsewithteeth11 
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Statutory-Mike
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 22:30 |
 Drew wrote:
This should be a thread about how Roger Waters solo stuff is UNDERRATED |
I disagree, if you listen to Gilmours solo stuff, it sounds a lot more like floyd than Waters'. Gilmour = Underrated, Waters = a tad overrated IMO
Edited by MisterProg2112 - June 16 2008 at 22:31
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Statutory-Mike
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 22:29 |
I don't particularly take a liking to the wall, dark side blows it away.
Not overrated the slightest either.
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Drew
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 22:26 |
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This should be a thread about how Roger Waters solo stuff is UNDERRATED
Edited by Drew - June 16 2008 at 22:27
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tszirmay
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 22:21 |
Over rated only by Wright-Mason- Gilmour. Waters probably thinks that only his stuff is up to snuff . He may have a point but modesty is not one of his fortes
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Relayer09
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 22:11 |
progaeopteryx wrote:
It's possible I'm in the minority about this, but I think Ummagumma is stunningly amazing. |
The Ummagumma / Live At Pompeii era of Pink Floyd is my favorite. Echoes and Obscured by clouds are both amazing albums. Atom Heart Mother has it's moments but isn't one of my favorites. If you can track down a copy of Archives: Echoes Live 70-71 the version of Embryo on that album is worth having alone.
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If you lose your temper, you've lost the arguement. -Proverb
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Dynamo
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 21:54 |
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Listen to Dark Side Of The Moon and please remove your shoe from your ear, it makes easer to undestand....Overrated? Never...........On the other hand Opeth is overrated....
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"Donīt Stop Dancing!"
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ProgBagel
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 21:51 |
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I have a few problems with some things mentioned here....
No, they are not overrated, I find them to actually be underrated.
'Piper at the Gates of Dawn'. I wish I could of seen peoples faces when this innovative album was released. Nothing like it for its time and never really copied as far as I can tell.
Somebody mentioned before how they are regarded with Genesis, Yes and KC as the top 4 of prog...but really aren't that prog because they weren't complex and didn't change time signatures.
I've seen similar posts on ultimate-guitar concerning Dream Theater. One person mentions they need to keep doing out of control solo's otherwise it wouldn't be prog. Were does these idiots get that from.
Pink Floyd's talent comes from their ears mostly. They experimented with so many different sounds and methods to conjure up songs which is indeed progressive.
Thier realllly big psychedlic era had some great material, the best being found on some tracks on the album Meddle in my opinion.
Then there is Dark Side of the Moon. I feel it is a tad overrated, but just in todays age. There are people that wear the t-shirt but never heard the album. Yes. It exists, and quite frequently.
Wish you Were Here was a quick turn on the popularity. Creating an epic suite 'Shine...' and another track yet to be copied...'Welcome to the Machine'. That song is pure original.
'Animals' was a lyrical onslaught of society, another great piece and a new face for the band.
'The Wall' is one of the biggest rock opera's for its time and the first real good one. Would Aryeon have ever existed if it wasn't for this?
That was the end for me with this band...but then there is 'The Division Bell'...it was a nice album for such an old band.
Hardly...Hardly overrated.
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Yorkie X
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 21:37 |
I really like Floyd .. I like them very much however I see your point perhaps they may be slightly overrated but not by us prog fans the problem exists mostly with the people who tend to like them only because they are popular, I have met plenty of these type of floyd "fans" Just my view I hope it doesn't offend. 
Edited by Yorkie X - June 16 2008 at 21:39
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The Quiet One
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 20:29 |
micky wrote:
Treasure wrote:
I think most of their early psychedlic stuff was pure garbage and they've really made nothing of interest since The Wall.
Are they overrated?
Yes |
hahhaha... oh.... you and I are going to get along... |
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micky
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 20:27 |
Treasure wrote:
I think most of their early psychedlic stuff was pure garbage and they've really made nothing of interest since The Wall.
Are they overrated?
Yes |
hahhaha... oh.... you and I are going to get along...
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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The Quiet One
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 19:55 |
progaeopteryx wrote:
It's possible I'm in the minority about this, but I think Ummagumma is stunningly amazing.
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not sure, but I think you got the wrong thread. The thread you're looking is the one of Ummagumma..
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progaeopteryx
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 19:52 |
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It's possible I'm in the minority about this, but I think Ummagumma is stunningly amazing.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 19:45 |
proggy wrote:
Treasure wrote:
I think most of their early psychedlic stuff was pure garbage and they've really made nothing of interest since The Wall.
Are they overrated?
Yes |
You are overrated |
Hey proggy you took my words
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Dean
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 19:43 |
febus wrote:
One day. we are going to ask the PA admin. to BAN the word ''overrated''. It is used and overused and worst, carries no meaning. |
It's actually not that difficult to do (he says with his finger itching to press the [Admin] button and really do it), all I have to do is enter 'overrated' (and the plethora of misspellings you guys are so prone to) into the bad-word censor and viola! every time someone types 'overrated' it is replaced with a word or phrase of my choice... such as 'spiffying' or 'pomegranate'. 
So there you are: Is Pink Floyd pomegranate? - doesn't that sound far more interesting as a topic already.
febus wrote:
So tired of this overrated PINK FLOYD bashing! |
Me too - and what saddens me more is that the bands these 'bashers' like in preference I also like (but probably not as much) ... now if someone came along who didn't like any of the bands I liked and started bashing one of them I'd understand... that would be 'reasonable' and perhaps even 'acceptable' to some degree... if they only listened to J-Lo or B-ouncy or something of that ilk perhaps, of course those people would never be able to put forward a well constructed and reasoned argument of why they thought that to back up their claims, so I'd nod and say "fair enough, dude, each to their own" and go back to my coffee and newspaper. But here, in the confined environment of a Prog forum, where all members have at least some knowledge of progressive music and the back-catalogues of those artists, we can have those well constructed and reasoned arguments why they are 'overrated'...
::scans back through last 2 pages::
...or not. 
So, anyway, if someone can forward me the names of the 14 people who voted 'yes'...  ... wait-up... don't bother, there's more options under this [Admin] button I haven't explored yet...
...brb 
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rushaholic
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 19:42 |
I am tired of seeing overrated used on this site.
You either like a band or you don't.
For me, Pink Floyd is absolutely incredible.
Short answer - NO.
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 19:16 |
^^^ Best statement yet 
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Drew
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 19:10 |
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F*** NO
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crimhead
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 19:02 |
puma wrote:
"Pink Floyd is overrated because they don't use Mellotron"
-every PA user
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but they do use it on "Saucer.." and AHM.
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eon_
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Posted: June 16 2008 at 17:46 |
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Great band but a little overrated IMO.
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