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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kati Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 01:31
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rogerthat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 01:25
Yes, for instance, even if we believe that Miles Davis should not be on the website for Bitches Brew, nothing can be done about it.  It is a privately run website.  There has never been a democratic process of selecting new collabs.  The only democracy is within genre teams as far as adding/rejecting bands goes. And there again, if collabs from another team disagree with the decision of say Crossover, they can't do anything about it.  

Have you ever worked in a large organisation?  Do you fully grasp how feasible (or, rather, infeasible) it would be to referendum every decision that goes into running such a large database?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kati Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 01:19
Do you understand what you are actually implying here now? To me it seems that what you are saying is that PA is a private site thus the public members should have no view in this respect? PA is thus aka biased? 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kati Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 01:14
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Oh boy, you guys had no authority at all to delete that review post, even if it was partly a translated one? Did you know that what you did was unconstitutional and unlawful, laws written in terms which equally I believe applies in terms of PA rules? This site has rules and no one is beyond those rules, a democratic vote can only be applied and become made into action after the fact. 
This is not a democracy, it's a privately owned web-site with free public access.

Back to your comment now, to the above you said, with that do you mean it's an authoritarian site no matter other members point of views? 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kati Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 01:11
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Oh boy, you guys had no authority at all to delete that review post, even if it was partly a translated one? Did you know that what you did was unconstitutional and unlawful, laws written in terms which equally I believe applies in terms of PA rules? This site has rules and no one is beyond those rules, a democratic vote can only be applied and become made into action after the fact. 
This is not a democracy, it's a privately owned web-site with free public access.
Dean, you ninny democracy was a metaphor, as I also said a selective tiny few admins, this compared to the overall number of collabs. Stern Smile Democracy was a vote within admins to remove that review, this I what I meant and said. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2015 at 01:05
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Oh boy, you guys had no authority at all to delete that review post, even if it was partly a translated one? Did you know that what you did was unconstitutional and unlawful, laws written in terms which equally I believe applies in terms of PA rules? This site has rules and no one is beyond those rules, a democratic vote can only be applied and become made into action after the fact. 
This is not a democracy, it's a privately owned web-site with free public access.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kati Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2015 at 23:41
Oh boy, you guys had no authority at all to delete that review post, even if it was partly a translated one? Did you know that what you did was unconstitutional and unlawful, laws written in terms which equally I believe applies in terms of PA rules? This site has rules and no one is beyond those rules, a democratic vote can only be applied and become made into action after the fact. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kati Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2015 at 22:08
Quick question here. The PA admins currently on here, are there any who frequently do write album reviews, on here? It seems to me, or I might be mistaken maybe that little or none reviews are written by Admins or I am wrong here? Stern Smile

No pun intended, however I think the voting should have been extended beyond admins, especially considering that no written rules were broken. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kati Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2015 at 21:27
this review here on pa was shared on other social media sites too related to the French reviewer including well known Canadian and especially French prog mags, whereby PA was named too. Why all this drama? I don't get it. 
I won't speak further of this, I give up and have better happier things to think about and spend my time in doing. Approve 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kati Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2015 at 21:18
Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Oh, for God's sake! The only thing the original writer of the review has to do is to register here and post the review. He can even use your translation if he wish to. No need to play the victim card. Just follow the rules, it's not that difficult!

The Bearded Bard, that is not a nice thing to say, be nice! No one is playing the victim here and certainly not Lucas, he stayed out of all of this silly discussion, he only commented to all the above now and is most welcome too! I was wondering, as so were others, expecting a reaction from him. He followed the rules, nothing was previously stated that a collab wouldn't be able to translate a review of a none English speaker and make it his own meanwhile clearly giving credit to the original author although the translation is different not only because direct translation from a latin language is very different to English, the fact is that he made it his own too! Have any of you actually read both of the reviews? I think not or none of you would say such things. 
The band review is not even in the top 100 Pa ratings, it's the only review the band had and now it's gone. 
All arguments should be in consideration of benefiting PA site, not about personal dilemmas. The fact is that now anyone searching for this band won't find any written review for the band. This review in French was written by a respected reviewer, thus not the so called fan boy reviewers (I still don't understand why such animosity against them either) that most of you seem to snub your noses up, after all most of you have been them. 
The fact is that the only review the band had on this site is not anymore on PA, this is a shame. 

This is all becoming very silly, tiny contained democratic opinion within Admins wanted it removed and this is fine/acceptable however do let others speak their mind too after the fact. Confused

Awww but you are always very nice and funny too, tho' Wink big hug to you, The Bearded BardHug
   
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Oh, for God's sake! The only thing the original writer of the review has to do is to register here and post the review. He can even use your translation if he wish to. No need to play the victim card. Just follow the rules, it's not that difficult!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote lucas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2015 at 16:14
the review was removed, hence my reference to the times of Inquisition
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Rivertree Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2015 at 15:55
Lucas, has anybody punished you for that? I mean, this is a dispute, or what? Okay, some contributions are a bit harsh, but it's valid, still a discussion with contrary arguments. Or have I missed something?

I for one would not post a review where the content is not written by myself, even if I have it partially reworked.
And I can understand the objections that once the door is opened we won't come to grips with that furthermore ...


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lucas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2015 at 15:13
wow, 2 pages about a translation I did of Philippe Vallin's review of Sequentia Legenda's ', I feel honoured :-) You guys have a lot of time to lose...
And you didn't read the orignal review, but the translation is very far from the original text, some sentences were even completely reworked to sound as if they came from me. Anyway, I posted it in agreement with Philippe, and I must mention that I am myself reviewer for his website, Clair & Obscur... Hard times of inquisition have come back...

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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Angelo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2015 at 15:04
That doesn't change what is going on - apart from having one more report outside.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Windhawk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2015 at 14:22
It was Colin who spotted it actually, and tagged Thomas into the case.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Angelo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2015 at 14:11
Sneaky b*****d from the looks of it. Join, rate the top 15 of the year quite low, and put in 1 five star review.
There are more, but I can't create a list right now (only phone at hand).

The fact that the artist is talking about it on FB should be a trigger though - it's not exactly the publicity PA may seek....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guldbamsen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2015 at 13:37
I have to admit that I always get a little...let's just say cautious, whenever I see somewhat under-the-radar acts receiving 5 after 5 star review, but it is very hard to establish proof of fraud, unless people are doing the multiple accounts from one IP thang, and even that is possible to circumvent. 
I'm not sure you can say that he purposely is pushing the album either, as he has some 3 and 4 star ratings of 2015 releases as well. 
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Feck. It's corrupt. I'll fix it.

EDIT: Fixed.


Edited by Angelo - October 01 2015 at 13:27
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