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Joren ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 07 2004 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 6667 |
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I sometimes enjoy Dream Theater... it depends on my mood... sometimes I hate it, some times I really like certain parts. Their music has good elements, but also many many cheesey elements (take that sax solo on Images And Words, for instance... CHEESEY!)
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Spartacus ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: January 27 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 72 |
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"But what the hell is the deal with Metal and Prog? " I wish I knew.
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arcer ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 01 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1239 |
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Just re-read my first post. Blimey my typing is sh*te isn't it!!! And I do this for a living
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arcer ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 01 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1239 |
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BTW I voted no
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arcer ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 01 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1239 |
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As one who has previosuly freaked out (just ever so slightly) about polls I probably shouldn't get involved here, but Gdub makes an interesting point about prog-metal's representation of the genre. Not arguing whether DT are prog or not (so dull - they're here because they're here) but heavy metal's take on (abduction of?) is an interesting subject. Has heavy metal ruined prog? Was prog in any way ever allied with heavy metal in some sort of musical pigeon hole? Why/How do so many people who are enthusiastic about metal find their way to Yes/KC/Genesis/Floyd etc and why when they do find them are they attracted to music, which to my ears, has so little to do with prog. Ok there are exceptions such as Rush who have a hard rock core running through their music (but which in my opinion was thrown out on their most interesting records - 1976-1984) before re-emerging in the 90s. But what the hell is the deal with Metal and Prog? To me they're mutually exclusive - one is clever and inspired by jazz, folk and classical filtered through some R&B, blues and psychedelia, the other bludgeoning, soulless and inspired by speed, volume and other heavy metal/hard rock. Am I alone in thinking this?
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Reed Lover ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 16 2004 Location: Sao Tome and Pr Status: Offline Points: 5187 |
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No- you originally typed "@" instead of " ' " . |
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Spartacus ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: January 27 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 72 |
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I really don't think it is progressive music, that is my concern. It does have some elements of the genre, but DT is more of a slick metal band with progressive tendencies. Metal first and Prog second, thus MetalProg not ProgMetal. I feel that those outside of prog are often scared away by these "ProgMetal" bands like DT. I just don't want prog and it's public view for that matter be tainted by the likes of DT. I have been lurking around these forums for more than a month now and I was shocked by the amount of interest I see in DT and bands like them. I am not trying to start a battle just get a barometer of the interest in DT. If you enjoy DT so be it, just taking a poll.
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Swinton MCR ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 19 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 848 |
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I don't know - my computer just decided to put it in ? - Very strange ??
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gdub411 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 24 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3484 |
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I some some and I don't like some of their stuff. They're a mixed bag.
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Reed Lover ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 16 2004 Location: Sao Tome and Pr Status: Offline Points: 5187 |
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Why have you included a hyperlink to your email Swinny? |
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Swinton MCR ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 19 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 848 |
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How can DT "misrepresent progressive music" ?? Just BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE IT? |
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Spartacus ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: January 27 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 72 |
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Ugghhh, I'd rather play a cherub at Netherland ranch, than listen to anymore DT
Wow!!!!!! Now that is some serious dislike |
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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DT bores me after 5 minutes, and I'm not alone. We have a Progressive discussion group in Perú named La Lata, and every month one member talks about a band and shows some videos for all the group in a Video Club. At the end of 2004 one of our best prepared hosts "Cesar Inca" talked about Dream Theater, his speech was impecable and interesting, the videos were good, but the reaction among the public was terrible, most of the people don't have interest in Prog' Metal or Dream Theater. Iván |
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Reed Lover ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 16 2004 Location: Sao Tome and Pr Status: Offline Points: 5187 |
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Ugghhh, I'd rather play a cherub at Netherland ranch, than listen to anymore DT! |
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Spartacus ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: January 27 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 72 |
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I am really curious as to the results of this poll. I do not by any means see any value in their music and am actaully quite concerned that DT could become the posterboys of modern prog and totally misrepresent progressive music. If they become the cliche for progressive music, the future of this genre is in real trouble. I am not trying to stir up trouble at all, these are just real concerns of mine. Thanks for honestly voting. Me and I asume many others shall look forward to the results of this niche community.
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