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Poll Question: Which Of These would you pick?
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3 [4.17%]
11 [15.28%]
2 [2.78%]
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    Posted: September 24 2020 at 01:38
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^ I think it was Mike Rutherford who described Los Endos as their 'Carlos Santana Track' . As I mentioned before I really prefer to have Dance On A Volcano and Los Endos knitted together as they are on Seconds Out. That's probably my only criticism of the album (it is in my all time top five so I have very little negativity towards it)

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Volcano is the perfect opener, and Los Endos obviously the only track that could have closed the album. They do work perfectly together, I agree, and maybe Squonk would have been a good opener?


It was often the opener for many a live shows. I guessed because it was ideal for the engineers to set the balance right as its very straightforward.

I also don't like the 'throw away' bit at the end of Dance very much , its very 'we really don't know how to end this track do we?!' Smile


Yeah, the fast section at the end is the weakest part of the song. Banks said at the time he didn't feel the band were very good at playing 'fast'

Trick remains their best album overall IMO. It was the second Genesis album I heard in its entirity, and it quickly became my favourite. ATTWT was the first album I heard, and that remains special to me too.
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^ I think it was Mike Rutherford who described Los Endos as their 'Carlos Santana Track' . As I mentioned before I really prefer to have Dance On A Volcano and Los Endos knitted together as they are on Seconds Out. That's probably my only criticism of the album (it is in my all time top five so I have very little negativity towards it)

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Volcano is the perfect opener, and Los Endos obviously the only track that could have closed the album. They do work perfectly together, I agree, and maybe Squonk would have been a good opener?

It was often the opener for many a live shows. I guessed because it was ideal for the engineers to set the balance right as its very straightforward.

I also don't like the 'throw away' bit at the end of Dance very much , its very 'we really don't know how to end this track do we?!' Smile
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Only one vote for "robbery, assault and battery." That's hysterical! LOL

Squonk (spelled as squank)only has two votes. I wonder if it would have more if it was spelled correctlyWink

I actually like r, a & b especially the mellotron break. Besides if it is so horrible why was it included on seconds out? 


I always assumed that the band meant something like "skunk"TongueWink

Yeah, I don't get the usual snub RA&B gets... it's one of the funniest "rock opera" they did after Epping Forest and well ahead of Mouse's Night.
I almost voted for it, but Trick needed the help just as bad.

IIRC, it's about a mythological creature (cryptid!) called the Squonk that is said to have roamed around rural Pennsylvania. When caught, it was said to dissolve into a puddle of water/tears, hence the line in the song! One of their more subtle, beautiful yet powerful pre-80's Collins tracks IMHO. The way it comes in live is so full and satisfying. The bass and that first few chords are legendary!

You can see the Squonk in the gatefold art. Also, the squonk is mentioned in the Steely Dan song Any Major Dude. "Have you ever seen a squonk's tears, well look at mine." Nifty.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^ I think it was Mike Rutherford who described Los Endos as their 'Carlos Santana Track' . As I mentioned before I really prefer to have Dance On A Volcano and Los Endos knitted together as they are on Seconds Out. That's probably my only criticism of the album (it is in my all time top five so I have very little negativity towards it)

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Volcano is the perfect opener, and Los Endos obviously the only track that could have closed the album. They do work perfectly together, I agree, and maybe Squonk would have been a good opener?
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Yeah, "Dance" is pretty awesome. No doubt about that.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

How Squonk has only two votes (including mine), I do not know.
Squonk is a good song. it's just not the song.

Love Squonk, but Dance on a Volcano is the defining song for that album and for the new direction sound-wise of the band without Gabriel.
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

How Squonk has only two votes (including mine), I do not know.
Squonk is a good song. it's just not the song.
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Only one vote for "robbery, assault and battery." That's hysterical! LOL

Squonk (spelled as squank)only has two votes. I wonder if it would have more if it was spelled correctlyWink

I actually like r, a & b especially the mellotron break. Besides if it is so horrible why was it included on seconds out? 


I always assumed that the band meant something like "skunk"TongueWink

Yeah, I don't get the usual snub RA&B gets... it's one of the funniest "rock opera" they did after Epping Forest and well ahead of Mouse's Night.
I almost voted for it, but Trick needed the help just as bad.

IIRC, it's about a mythological creature (cryptid!) called the Squonk that is said to have roamed around rural Pennsylvania. When caught, it was said to dissolve into a puddle of water/tears, hence the line in the song! One of their more subtle, beautiful yet powerful pre-80's Collins tracks IMHO. The way it comes in live is so full and satisfying. The bass and that first few chords are legendary!
If I remember rightly (and it was a long time ago) "Squonk" was allegedly about Mr Gabriel. I can't remember who said this (it might have been one of the major music papers of the time) but personally I don't really see it.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Only one vote for "robbery, assault and battery." That's hysterical! LOL

Squonk (spelled as squank)only has two votes. I wonder if it would have more if it was spelled correctlyWink

I actually like r, a & b especially the mellotron break. Besides if it is so horrible why was it included on seconds out? 


I always assumed that the band meant something like "skunk"TongueWink

Yeah, I don't get the usual snub RA&B gets... it's one of the funniest "rock opera" they did after Epping Forest and well ahead of Mouse's Night.
I almost voted for it, but Trick needed the help just as bad.

IIRC, it's about a mythological creature (cryptid!) called the Squonk that is said to have roamed around rural Pennsylvania. When caught, it was said to dissolve into a puddle of water/tears, hence the line in the song! One of their more subtle, beautiful yet powerful pre-80's Collins tracks IMHO. The way it comes in live is so full and satisfying. The bass and that first few chords are legendary!


Edited by Frenetic Zetetic - September 23 2020 at 04:24

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Only one vote for "robbery, assault and battery." That's hysterical! LOL

Squonk (spelled as squank)only has two votes. I wonder if it would have more if it was spelled correctlyWink

I actually like r, a & b especially the mellotron break. Besides if it is so horrible why was it included on seconds out? 


I always assumed that the band meant something like "skunk"TongueWink

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^ I think it was Mike Rutherford who described Los Endos as their 'Carlos Santana Track' . As I mentioned before I really prefer to have Dance On A Volcano and Los Endos knitted together as they are on Seconds Out. That's probably my only criticism of the album (it is in my all time top five so I have very little negativity towards it)

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There's only one song on A Trick of the Tail that gives me Ripples of excitement and makes me want to Dance on a Volcano with joy under a Mad Man Moon. I don't want to become Entangled in a debate, but I wouldn't vote for Squonk even if it was spelled correctly. Los Endos! Smile
 
By the way, did you hear about the chip shop raiders who were charged with Robbery, 'salt & Battery.  Smile
 


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Mad Man moon, for sure.
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Only one vote for "robbery, assault and battery." That's hysterical! LOL

Squonk (spelled as squank)only has two votes. I wonder if it would have more if it was spelled correctly. Wink

I actually like r, a & b especially the mellotron break. Besides if it is so horrible why was it included on seconds out? 
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Like them all but...

Lately I've come to appreciate the elegance, soberness and originality of 'A Trick of the Tail'.

My younger brothers do some piano.. and there was a score once of ATOTT that I think I attempted and realized its simplicity and overlapped beauty.

I also love those subtle arrangements mainly at the end.


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Entangled followed by Mad man moon
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Fantastic album with no weak spots... but none beats 'Dance On a Volcano' for me!

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How Squonk has only two votes (including mine), I do not know.
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TOTT is perhaps the strongest overall album by the band, Every song is excellent. It however doesn't contain one bona fide classic imo. In fact I find WAW has 3 or4 songs that have stronger claims than anything on TOTT.

As such my favourite changes almost play to play, so because I played it whilst running ( alright fast walking) on Saturday I'll go for mad man moon.
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