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    Posted: January 06 2021 at 15:33

Sloooow...


In some cases I have them on the page for hours... even if the day runs out I'll back them up to my drive, (a simple notepad on a folder will do! even if I could certainly use a 'draft' functionality, it is not a big issue either and I like the straightforwardness of the Site). 

I wouldn't have imagined, for simple or short posts in a Site or subject like this, how much your first pass can improve with the distance of not much time. Rephrasing some part could make others redundant or having to change words downwards and so.

I like to mend them, think them well, choose the right word. Often I linger on the subject, and listen or re-listen to the contenders (often I keep listening for a week after posting : ) that's the beauty of it; after all, it's not a job!). I enjoy it that way, and it generally pays back.. sometimes I view old posts of mine and think: 'now I would've posted them the same way'.

Anyway, I'm talking about 3 or so paragraphs posts I'm mostly doing now. Last year I think, or the one before, I went with posts way longer, mainly when making recollections / prog-related memories or arguing something... those took a couple of hours straight, but now, if shorter, they're not a continuous task (some are).

One lesson that I learnt rapidly was taking sufficient time to vote or respond, or think twice before disparaging or making too categorical judgments on an album, song, band, etc., in fact, I think I barely do that (if at all); don't wanna regret my posts! Cry LOL for instance, albums that then start to grow some on you, or that you realize are damn good!

Also, I often want to express the 2-3 (or 4-5) ideas that I have on my mind on a certain subject, which frequently make the posts longer than a one liner, for starters.


The English is an added difficulty. Always have to have the Google translator and/or the dictionary at hand on another page, but it's also part of the fun.





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^ yeah, it's not for me to complain either, but I may have an old fashioned idea of an internet forum as a platform for exchanging ideas. Binary thought doesn't seem to me very constructive for that, but it seems that many enjoy it. So who am i to object/complain to what seems to enjoy others...?
In that sense, I understand Logan's drive to spend time on his messages, which I actually share. Generally, when I want to contribute, I want to contribute something that makes sense, at least to me, and that takes some time (especially in the more "sensitive" subjects).  Even on the "fun" section of the forum I spend more time to be sure to post what I want to post (humour is also something quite delicate...).

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^ Forums have always been swarmed with "vs."s, "this or that"s etc. I mean if one is guilty for this, that should be the forum culture whose "standarts" were (long before than social medias) established like this.

I'm not complaining, as I've been a forumer for a very long time, but I understand your concern. Embarrassed
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2021 at 14:38
^ This is a bit how I see it: impulsive, and generally humourous posts in the just for fun section. in the other sections I try to be more constructive. But, some seem to privilege quantity over quality, especially in the polls section where arbitrary and binary options seem to be in vogue at the moment (well, I say that because I don't have much history with the forum...). Is it me getting old and not liking the nowadays facebook/twitter strategies imposing binary thought? (Like/unlike, for or against, this or that...).

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Stream of consciousness in the Just for Fun section: between 10 seconds and a minute.

More serious posts where I don't want to be misinterpreted: between 5 and 20 minutes depending on the length of post or reply. If I was starting the topic and thought it was worth the investment in time, it would be closer to the 20 minute length. If I have to do research while writing the post, it could be much longer than 20 minutes depending on what kind of research it is.

These are all guesses. I don't actually time myself doing this.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2021 at 09:22
I'd normally do stuff instantaneously but very occasionally it takes me longer, usually when answering to something that really got me to think. I may reach the one hour mark once in a while, maybe once in two months, dunno.
Obviously also checking out music to play in some threads or to put into polls can take some (usually enjoyable) time. Not that I do that much of the latter. 
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I'm just curious about how quick most people are in preparing their posts and topics (thinking through and the writing process until you post).

I'm slow and so sometimes a topic or post might take me an hour or hours to think through or compose (not the best use of my time). It's rare that I can put one together in less than five minutes, and sometimes I spend longer in the editing process to sort out some of the mess. Usually I am very unhappy with the results, and I'm often at my worst the longer my post end up being (end up rambling in a confused manner often)

At a past forum I belonged to we had a chat application that required speed to still be relevant, which was good typing practice and to be quick-witted, but I am mentally much less nimble and much more sluggish now.

Some people I see can post ten or more posts in ten minutes, but I just always have more ideas and associations that I want to express, and I don't express myself well.

Sometimes I am quick, and I used to be able to pull things off that added to discussion much faster.

Now this one took me about eight minutes from conception to posting it, but now I edit to add that some require more research, fact-checking, and thinking-through than others.

First, I'm not a fewt typer (using the two index fingers), which does't help, but I wa never really a thread starter either. Over my nearly 17-years I've been here, I don't think I started more than 50 threads.

Over the years on PA, I've lost many long posts (over "right posting" issues), some that I chose not to re-write, out of frustrations for the time lost/wasted. The only parade I found was to (when I remembered to do so) prevently copy the post in case it denied my access right and then pasting it on the next try, but over the years, it was aggravating me and drove me nuts.

These deny access issues still exist nowadays, but now when it does deny it, I can return to the page via the browser and find my written text, which was not the case back then.

I must say that the frustration of the time lost in losts messages and the site management in dealing with these denied access issues drove me away and post somewhere else for years, though never abandoning this forum.

I tend to limit my interventions nowadays anyways, but just to understand, after my first four year's presence,  my post count was up to 11000, which also pushed me to wonder about my addiction (time investments) to the site.
That and constant feuds behind the scenes drove to post less, though I never stopped working on the database. Though I never even started thinking about the thousands hours invested in that part of the site (inclusions, bios, fact checking, etc...)  - let alone the reviewing part.EmbarrassedWacko

Anyways, this post probably took me +/- 20 minutes.
And maybe I'll be back to correct things just after posting it.
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Ok I was re-thinking my posting and wondering why, was I not doing much........I think you reminded me of the PA glory years of access issues, permission issues, "login to post" when ur already logged in, and of course the dreaded what 2-3yrs of clicking on sidewalks, street lights, buses, cars, store fronts and still losing your post. 
And of course that always happened on a nice long thoughtful post, like you I just said F it!!....When I remembered I would copy past to Word document so I would not lose my post before hitting the fatal Post Reply button which always turned into an entry key to authentication HELL!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2021 at 04:04
I think I implied or overstated that I spend more time writing and thinking through posts than I do. I have written lots of stream of consciousness stuff (I quite often do it on my phone). Those hour plus ones are rare, but most are over five minutes from when I think I’m going to post something until I actually post (this may include logging-in). One like this is clocking in at two minutes so far, but it feels much longer. Also, in long posts, I include break times and doing other things in between and any later editing. Often I don’t bother to read my own posts until much later if at all.

Some people are incredibly fast and prolific, but then those tend to be very short posts. I post the longest when I haven’t slept for long periods of time, and I have chronic insomnia, which might add to any apparent neuroses. With work I get lots done when I sleep little and fuel myself on Coca Cola, but with just forum posting I try to stay away from my coke habit.

Forums were often a way for me to get my ya-yas out and let my hair down and exorcise any stress when taking breaks from work, which involves very precise formal writing and actual thought. Frequent showers work better to get those juices following, to relax, and re-focus.

Edited by Logan - January 06 2021 at 04:06
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2021 at 03:42
I tend to post short updates, I can't be bothered with long ones, too lazy I guess. That probably explains why I sometimes have to go back and edit them.
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^ I can relate to that. Though the other night it was about 3 am and my wife was asking me to come to bed, and I was like no, I only have 10 more levels to complete in Zelda’s Trial of the Sword. I have my priorities.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2021 at 02:59
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:



Wow, I’d hate to hear from you when you are being judgmental. Oh wait, I have.




Edited by Sean Trane - January 06 2021 at 02:59
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2021 at 02:57
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I'm just curious about how quick most people are in preparing their posts and topics (thinking through and the writing process until you post).

I'm slow and so sometimes a topic or post might take me an hour or hours to think through or compose (not the best use of my time). It's rare that I can put one together in less than five minutes, and sometimes I spend longer in the editing process to sort out some of the mess. Usually I am very unhappy with the results, and I'm often at my worst the longer my post end up being (end up rambling in a confused manner often)

At a past forum I belonged to we had a chat application that required speed to still be relevant, which was good typing practice and to be quick-witted, but I am mentally much less nimble and much more sluggish now.

Some people I see can post ten or more posts in ten minutes, but I just always have more ideas and associations that I want to express, and I don't express myself well.

Sometimes I am quick, and I used to be able to pull things off that added to discussion much faster.

Now this one took me about eight minutes from conception to posting it, but now I edit to add that some require more research, fact-checking, and thinking-through than others.

First, I'm not a fewt typer (using the two index fingers), which does't help, but I wa never really a thread starter either. Over my nearly 17-years I've been here, I don't think I started more than 50 threads.

Over the years on PA, I've lost many long posts (over "right posting" issues), some that I chose not to re-write, out of frustrations for the time lost/wasted. The only parade I found was to (when I remembered to do so) prevently copy the post in case it denied my access right and then pasting it on the next try, but over the years, it was aggravating me and drove me nuts.

These deny access issues still exist nowadays, but now when it does deny it, I can return to the page via the browser and find my written text, which was not the case back then.

I must say that the frustration of the time lost in losts messages and the site management in dealing with these denied access issues drove me away and post somewhere else for years, though never abandoning this forum.

I tend to limit my interventions nowadays anyways, but just to understand, after my first four year's presence,  my post count was up to 11000, which also pushed me to wonder about my addiction (time investments) to the site.
That and constant feuds behind the scenes drove to post less, though I never stopped working on the database. Though I never even started thinking about the thousands hours invested in that part of the site (inclusions, bios, fact checking, etc...)  - let alone the reviewing part.EmbarrassedWacko

Anyways, this post probably took me +/- 20 minutes.
And maybe I'll be back to correct things just after posting it.


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Wow, I’d hate to hear from you when you are being judgmental. Oh wait, I have.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ExittheLemming Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2021 at 02:32
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I'm just curious about how quick most people are in preparing their posts and topics (thinking through and the writing process until you post).

I'm slow and so sometimes a topic or post might take me an hour or hours to think through or compose (not the best use of my time). It's rare that I can put one together in less than five minutes, and sometimes I spend longer in the editing process to sort out some of the mess. Usually I am very unhappy with the results, and I'm often at my worst the longer my post end up being (end up rambling in a confused manner often)

At a past forum I belonged to we had a chat application that required speed to still be relevant, which was good typing practice and to be quick-witted, but I am mentally much less nimble and much more sluggish now.

Some people I see can post ten or more posts in ten minutes, but I just always have more ideas and associations that I want to express, and I don't express myself well.

Sometimes I am quick, and I used to be able to pull things off that added to discussion much faster.

Now this one took me about eight minutes from conception to posting it, but now I edit to add that some require more research, fact-checking, and thinking-through than others.


I'm surprised at the typical time-frames you have mentioned. At the risk of sounding judgemental (which is NOT my intention) Your posts always strike me as neurotic or the result of some sort of compulsive disorder.
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I type incredibly fast so it's instant, almost no editing unless I botch grammar and notice after the fact.

1-3 mins depending on topic.

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It can be as quick as two minutes if I'm just voting and briefly commenting in a poll, but it can be as long as four hours or more if I'm writing a long song titles intro for a new thread. The longest intro I ever wrote was for The  Dark Side of the Moon, which took around eight hours in total, including compiling all of Pink Floyd's songs together, and then writing, editing & highlighting all of the songs. I needed a long lie down in a darkened room after that mammoth effort. Geek
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Thinking process: It's complicated for creating topics. Sometimes it takes only split seconds or a couple of seconds. Sometimes minutes. Rarely more than a couple of minutes. Sometimes an idea comes to my mind, and I "wait for inspiration", in order my mind to shape it. Like a topic coming to and going from my mind during the day or days, and waiting until I say "this is it". For posting inside an already created topic: It's generally very quick and spontaneous.

Writing process: generally a mere minutes (if not a very short post, which can take even a second, like " LOL", you know), but can take about half an hour if it's long and/or I write while pondering and/or using dictionaries and/or Google. I should have a couple of posts that took me about or more than an hour to write also.

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This stuff is more a hobby for me, so creating Topics I don't do much, I've been on too many music forums creating Topics in the past. Now, I am more of a reactionary poster and depending on the topic its either milliseconds or several minutes to post.
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I have several poll  ideas in my documents on my computer but often I just come up with them off the top of my head. For regular posts I think about it then post five minutes later(if that)so no real serious planning at all.
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I like that. I overthink things and always doubt myself. I am often in a state of a sort of cognitive dissonance which makes things harder, and then deciding which path will I follow, and then regretting the approach. Also my mind is just always associating, so I have to force myself to shut up. Now this post was pretty instantaneous.
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