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b_olariu
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Topic: Jazz Metal Posted: December 14 2007 at 11:52 |
Got to be Watchtower follow closely by Spiral Architect and Spastik Ink, trully amazing bands, they play a complex metal with jazzy influence and the result is a fantastic one, not boring just chalenging for every serious listner.
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ChadFromCanada
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Posted: December 14 2007 at 00:56 |
maudlin for sure. I have all three of their albums reissued with the bonus tracks. So good.
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ProgBagel
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Posted: December 13 2007 at 23:29 |
I don't see why Cynic is winning. Focus is the best jazz metal of all time, but I think people are not look at bands in a whole. It has only been one album. Meshuggah gets my vote.
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Prog-jester
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Posted: December 13 2007 at 11:23 |
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ANDREW
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Posted: December 12 2007 at 16:49 |
Firefly wrote:
Can't vote, as the first band to do it ain't there. Atheist. Death-jazz. |
ATHEIST were a sort of progressive techno-thrash metal band who released three fantastic albums between 1989 and 1993. Their second release "Unquestionable Presence" (1991) is maybe one of the most technical albums ever recorded by an heavy-metal band. "Elements" (1993) is an incredible album, characterised by pyrotechnician fusion lashes!!!
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markosherrera
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Posted: December 12 2007 at 10:05 |
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: September 18 2007 at 19:40 |
debrewguy wrote:
Jazz metal ? You're kidding , right
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not at all
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debrewguy
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Posted: September 18 2007 at 19:28 |
Jazz metal ? You're kidding , right
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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Komodo dragon
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Posted: September 18 2007 at 17:47 |
Spiral Architect is my fave from that list
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ProgBagel
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Posted: September 18 2007 at 17:40 |
Cynic did more on one album then some artists can do in their lifetime.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 19:03 |
There's a Bill Laswell/Tony Williams project with Buckethead called Arcana (also the name of the company where I work) that fits the Jazz Metal shoe.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Lady In Black
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 18:50 |
CYNIC for sure.
But also Ian Gillan Band, Pestilence and Atheist!!!
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Shakespeare
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 18:48 |
Mr. Bungle is also sorta Jazz/metal -ish. Although, they're more commonly refered to as "Funk Metal". Whatevsss
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P.H.P.
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 18:42 |
el böthy wrote:
What about Fredik Thordendal´s Special defects¿ That´s as Jazz and extreme metal as you can get
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When I first heard that album, I thought it was going to be better, or at least jazzy, but in reality it's not even close, it's again technical, complex, dissonant, some times melodic, kind of experimental, it's metal and evidently for meshuggah fans only And please, let's not confuse good metal musicianship with jazz, those things are totally opposite in every sense.
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P.H.P.
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 18:34 |
Hm, I don't jazz-metal exists really, there're all technical metal bands, be it melodic, dissonant, etc.
I don't know what happens, but when a metal bands turns up the volume of the bass guitar everyone thinks that's jazz and even fusion, metal is far far away from jazz, note that, is it jazz or metal, one at the time and never both.
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activetopics
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 09:33 |
i need to get some of this stuff hehe
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FruMp
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 09:24 |
Can't vote as atheist aren't on the poll =/
Firefly wrote:
Have any of you heard Atheist's "Unquestionable Presence"? |
Yeah it's my favourite album lol
Obviously ;-) WatchTower, Pioneers and fantastic, extremely unique
musicians and great songwriting - and very techy but catchy, like "The
Fall of Reason" or "Control and Resistance", I love how far they really
are away from regular "heavy metal riffing" in most of their songs.
It's just too bad that they still haven't made "Mathmatics", although
Spastic Ink and Ron Jarzombeks solo stuff is great to bridge the time. |
Yeah gotta give props to the first ever prog metal band, it's not particularly jazzy though, just technical. Also you guys should check out nekropsi, really good clean (for the most part) instrumental jazz/metal hybrid, really interesting stuff.
Edited by FruMp - September 17 2007 at 09:27
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Tapfret
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Posted: August 13 2007 at 16:54 |
Have any of you listened to Coprofago? They win this catagory hands down. They are really the only ones who hold up both ends of the criteria.
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Tapfret
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Posted: August 13 2007 at 16:53 |
Sorry, double post, BAD WIRELESS!!!!
Edited by Tapfret - August 13 2007 at 16:55
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fungusucantkill
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Posted: August 06 2007 at 10:02 |
In no order.
Don Caballero
Estradasphere
John Zorn
Planet X
Behold...the Arctopus
Dillenger Escape Plan
Kayo Dot
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