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    Posted: July 23 2008 at 07:58
I can recommend any of the Ohm albums myself (not that I'm an expert). Anyone heard the new one yet?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 07:22

Tempest, and Soft Machine's Bundles both featuring Allan Holdsworth in a pre - legato playing style. His improvisations are just on another level.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 07:06

Charlie Mariano's Helen 12 trees with Jan Hammer's rapid moog excursions.

Jeremy Steig's Temple of Birth (with Alphonse Mouzon). Bit flute heavy, but groovy fusion. 

Bill Connor's Double Up - amazing Holdsworth style fretwork.

Volker Kriegle and the mild maniac orchestra - Elastic Menu, classic melodic  fusion.

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2008 at 22:53
Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Dave Sancious - keyboard and guitar wizard.  Anything he put out: "Forest of Feelings", "True Stories" or "Just as I Thought" (plus others).

Carlos Santana\John McLaughlin
- "Love Devotion Surrender" a very creative album from two of the best guitarist in the business.

Herbie Hancock
- jazz\funk fusion at its very best: "Head Hunters", Thrust" & "Man-Child".

Alphonse Mouzon - great drummer with the Eleventh House.  Checkout "Mind Transplant" which features some good guitar work from the late Tommy Bolin.


dont forget about Hancock's Mwandishi albums, as well as Fat Albert Rotunda. I also have a liking towards Mr. Hands, probably his last great jazz-fusion albums
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2008 at 11:26

Probably Brand X's  Moroccan Roll is their finest moment, although Masques comes close. Dzyan's Time Machine is a fusion classic, keeping the listener on edge with their fiery improvisations. Early Leb I Sol are worth seeking out, mixing Macedonian folk with great guitar and keys. Mahagon (self - titled) from 1977 is a classic of the Hungarian scene.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2008 at 11:03
Dave Sancious - keyboard and guitar wizard.  Anything he put out: "Forest of Feelings", "True Stories" or "Just as I Thought" (plus others).

Carlos Santana\John McLaughlin
- "Love Devotion Surrender" a very creative album from two of the best guitarist in the business.

Herbie Hancock
- jazz\funk fusion at its very best: "Head Hunters", Thrust" & "Man-Child".

Alphonse Mouzon - great drummer with the Eleventh House.  Checkout "Mind Transplant" which features some good guitar work from the late Tommy Bolin.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2008 at 11:29
Gong's Espresso (Gazeuse!) - Holdsworth guitar is incredible, and Moerlen's drumming and compositions are superb, plus, I got this when I was 18 and it kicked my ass!!!
 
Bruford's Master Strokes - A very comprehensive collection of works from '78-'85. 
 
Jeff Beck's Wired -  what can I say - that was jazz-rock at it's best in '76.  It was a privilege to hear this album when it came out.
 
Passport's Infinity Machine -  another mind-blowing gem. 
 
RTF's Romantic Warrior - the epitomy of jazz-rock fusion, with Al Di, Corea, Stanley Clarke ,and the monster drummer Lenny White.
 
Al Di Meola's Elegant Gypsy - this one is my favorite of all-time.  The most intensely classy album ever.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2008 at 09:33
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I would also like to mention the WDR Big Band, who have played with the Who is Who in jazz and jazz-rock and are all top musicians themselves. They usually have one or more guest stars for their concerts (who will solo on every track they play), but they all get some time to get in their own solos, and they are very fine musicians indeed. Here a few videos with the Brecker brothers as guests:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIBaR3b1jWA


They won two Grammies for their recording with the Brecker brothers in 2007 (and those were not their first ones). Jean and I saw them live with the Labeque sisters (Katia and Marielle), doing a special program with Gershwin tunes only.
 
The HR Big Band with Billy Cobham & Colin Towns (ex. Gillan), Mahavishnu album is also  very good, and is their current release over here with Jack Bruce.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2008 at 09:12
I would also like to mention the WDR Big Band, who have played with the Who is Who in jazz and jazz-rock and are all top musicians themselves. They usually have one or more guest stars for their concerts (who will solo on every track they play), but they all get some time to get in their own solos, and they are very fine musicians indeed. Here a few videos with the Brecker brothers as guests:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIBaR3b1jWA


They won two Grammies for their recording with the Brecker brothers in 2007 (and those were not their first ones). Jean and I saw them live with the Labeque sisters (Katia and Marielle), doing a special program with Gershwin tunes only.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2008 at 09:06
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

(Dick Heath, you should have mentioned them Angry).
 
I have in my subsequent list (entires 11 to 60+)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2008 at 08:55
The excellent read on the subject Stuart Nicholson's Jazz Rock: A History, has a discography compiled by a mutual acquaintance Jon Newey (editor of Jazzwise magazine) - it is claimed to list 4000+ albums but I haven't checked. Jon also compiled a listed of the ten most collectible jazz fusion albums for Mojo Collectibles magazine a number of years ago, and I've just reminded myself that 6 or 7 of the albums in my list were common to that. Jon (of course) had Davis's Bitches Brew, an early  90's Tribal Tech album,  a solo Scott Henderson album and Third.
 
Personally beyond my top ten, I would have increasing trouble selecting the next 10, and the ten after that with a hardcore of a 100 or so albums used for my leisure and pleasure. Here's few suggestions:
 
MIles Davis: Bitches Brew, We Want Miles, Live At Fillmore East
Soft Machine: Third (no. 11), Snides,
Wayne Krantz: Two Drink Minimum
John Scofield: A Go-Go, Blue Matter Live
John McLaughlin: Extrapolation, Electric Guitarist.
Brecker Brothers: Heavy Metal BeBop
John Surman: Road To St Ives, Way Back When
Jan Garbarek: Rosensfole,  12 Moons
Miroslav Vitous: Magical Shepherd, To Be Continuesd (withRypdal & De Johnette)
Jan Hammer (Group) : Oh Yeah (no.12???), Melodies
Frank Zappa: Hot Rats, Waka Jawaka (Hot Rats 2)
Jonas Hellborg Group: e
Hellborg/Lane/Sipe: Time Is The Enemy
Michael Shrieve: Fascination
John Abercrombie: Night, Timeless
Pat Metheny Group: PMG, American Garage (15th)
Jaco Pastorius: Jaco
Everyman Band: Without Warning
David Torn: Cloud About Mercury
Kazumi Watanabe: Mobo, Spice Of Life Too
Garaj Mahal: Live Volume 1.
Terje Rypdal: Chaser, SIngles Collection, Vossabrygg
Larry Coryell/Tom Coster/Steve Smith: Cause & Effect
Frank Gambale/Steve Smith/ Stu Hamm: Show Me What You Can Do
Whoopgnash: first album
McHacek: Featuring Ourselves (16th)
MacHacek/Garrison/Sipe: improvision
Tunnels: Progressivity
Isotope: Isotope
Brand X: Livestock, Morrocan Roll
Stomu Yamashta: Freedom Is Frightening
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Gary Boyle: The Dancer, Electric Glide
Allan Holdsworth: Road Games (13th), Metal Fatigue, All  Night Wrong, Things You See (with Gordon Beck)
Grover Washington Jr: Mister Magic
Hubert Laws: Inflation Chaser
Michael Brecker: Don't Try This At Home
Bob Berg: Cycles
Mike Stern: Upside Down
(New) Tony Williams LifeTime: Believe It (14th)
Lenny White: Big City, Edge
Stanley Clarke: Stanley Clake, Schooldays
Michael Mantler: Movies
Tom Scott, Billy Cobham, Alphonso Johnson, Steve Khan:  Anotherlivemuthaforya
Al DiMeola: Scenario, Live
United Rock & Jazz Ensemble: Live Im Schutzenhaus
Nucleus: Solar Plexus (Chris Spedding's rhythm guitar is a joy)
64 Spoons: Landing on a Rat Column
Nguyen Le: Purple, 5 Millions Waves
Birelli Lagrene: Inferno, Foreign Affairs, Stuttgart Aria (with Jaco)
Niacin: Blood Sweat & Beers
Santana: Welcome
Passport: Doldinger, Ataraxia
Don Ellis: Live At Fillmore
Loose Tubes: eponymous first album
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2008 at 08:33
Any album of the United Jazz and Rock Ensemble (Dick Heath, you should have mentioned them Angry). The musicians are top notch: Albert Mangelsdorff (trombone), Ian Carr (trumpet), Ack van Royen (Flugelhorn), Kenny Wheeler (flugelhorn), Barbara Thompson (saxes and flute), Charlie Mariano (saxes, flute, nagaswaram), Eberhard Weber (bass; he was on their latter albums replaced by Dave King), Volker Kriegel (guitar), Wolfgang Dauner (keyboards), Jon Hiseman (drums). You can hardly get any better for a line-up.

Listen to the track "Hey Day" from their album "Live im Schützenhaus".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2008 at 06:56
A question that comes up on a irregular basis, but worth responding to reinforce the idea of what excellent music is out there in this genre, and still remains very fresh, some of it 30+ years old. I am afraid 80% are 70's recordings but two come from the 90's. Have to comment that releases over the last 3 years have been pretty good and there is a strong likelihood  future favorites will come from the newer generation of players e.g. Alex Machacek. My immediate top ten
 
 
Bruford: Feel Good To Me. A beautiful hybrid of Canterbury jazz and mainstream jazz rock of the mid 70's , with some less than common "instrumentation" (including Kenny Wheeler's Flugelhorn and especially Annette Peacock's voice - which alas fails transcription from the studio to live performance of Rock Goes To College).
 
Return To Forever: Hymn Of The Seventh Galaxy more in yer face jazz rock and less prog rock than the oriented Romantic Warrior. Bill Connors should not be forgotten.
 
Mahavishnu Orchestra: Birds Of Fire - perhaps the most dynamic performance heard from a jazz rock band in the early 70's.
 
Tony William's Lifetime: Turn It Over . The poorly recorded Emergency passed me by, and this album was the one  being played by UK pop stations. My first jazz rock album, and an album almost 40 years after its original release still has me intrigued as what they are doing and therefore the need to go back.
 
Joni Mitchell: Shadows & Light. If nothing else for the musicians recruited for the shows: Jaco Pastorius, Pat Metheny, Michael Brecker this is an excellent album (and I can forgive the non-jazz do-wop acapello of Persuasions heard elsewhere). Jaco/Brecker's duo work on Dry Cleaner From Des Moines is my all time fav jazz fusion track. A real pity that the DVD/laser disc is a visual f***-up.
 
Billy Cobham: Spectrum. Escaping MO, then Cobham and his compositions/arrangements could explode on the scene. Inspired use of rock guitarist Tommy Bolin , especially interplaying with Jan Hammer - Bolin never ever got back to this level of playing and excitement.
 
Conrad Schrenk's Extravaganza: Save The Robots. The last great jazz rock album released in 1996 - certainly seems a favourite amongst those who have heard it. Smacks of Tower of Power/Chicago at their most jazzy fronted by a Steve Vai guitarist with jazz chords.
 
Hellborg/Buckethead/Shrieve: Octave Of The Holy Innocents (the original release, not the 2003 remix). The only fully unplugged jazz fusion album in my list. Hellborg is THE master acoustic bass guitar player, doing some fiendishly fast interplay with shredder Buckethead on acoustic guitar - wow!!
 
Weather Report: Tales Spinnin'. I'm afraid I suffer burn out because of overplay of the Jaco period WR catalogue. Here the basic rules for future WR are in place, world, funk, great tunes and arrangements played by some really accomplished/experienced musicians, not afraid to employ youth as well.
 
 
Soft Machine: Volume Two (had to decide between this and Third, but at the moment Volume 2 edges it). An album at the boundary between prog/psychedelia and avant jazz rock - innovative playing from the three principle players, augmented by Hugh's brother  on sax. Playing is fresh whilst the lyrics part embedded in the summer of love.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 11 2008 at 16:01
Billy Cobham's Spectrum pulls off a remarkable feat by featuring several short drum solos that conspire to be just as good as the surrounding music. It's also great to hear Tommy Bolin playing material that really stretches him cf his unhappy stint in Purple.

Al Di Meola's brilliant Elegant Gypsy is fast taking on the mantle of a complete fluke, given the unremitting dross he has released since. Seems as though he started to believe his own press after Gypsy ?

Arti E Mestieri's Giro Di Valzer Per Domani should remind all other fusionists that you need memorable melodic themes PLUS dizzying chops to make great music.

PS can anyone tell me why Colosseum's Valentyne Suite and Maneige's Les Porches (both of which I love) are considered to be jazz rock/fusion albums ? I have always been puzzled at this.

Bill Brufords Earthworks debut album was the first fusion release that made me go on to explore more of this genre (Thanks Bill)

Ian Carr's Nucleus Elastic Rock 1970 album I particularly loved as it does not seem to suffer from some of the stylistic excesses that the genre was prone to thereafter. In embryonic ground breaking form, we have here an example of what the genre promised but perhaps never really delivered ?.

As much as I am keen to 'get into' this type of 'thang' a bit more, the one thing that puts me off a lot of  jazz/fusion is the surfeit of complexity for its own sake that many of the most celebrated artists are guilty of eg incredibly fast unison playing is very admirable but shorn of any lyrical phrasing whatsoever, it can just seem to lapse into a game of musical push-ups with the listeners being the ultimate losers ? (though prog of course can be just as culpable)

Sorry to sound so cynical.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 11 2008 at 15:30
What are some of your favorite jazz fusion albums? Give a description as to why you love it and why others should get it.

And have any of these albums been your favorite for a long time, or are they new favorites? And why does this happen? Certain albums stay in your favorites list forever, whereas some are there for a while when you get them, then they move on, either because you found something that topped it, or it wasnt as good as you thought? anyway, here's my list, in no particular order.

Return to Forever - Romantic Warrior - this album was my first introduction to jazz-fusion and jazz in general, so it has a special place in my music library, even if I dont really listen to it that much these days, but even after having this for over 3 years, i still love it. There's a reason it's well received on this site and is still considered a seminal jazz recording to this day.

Brand X - Livestock - I had Unorthodox Behavior for the longest time before i got anymore Brand X albums, and i loved it. But then I got this album and was really blown away. The atmosphere on this album is perfect.

Jan Hammer Group - Oh Yeah? - I've only had this album for a little while but it's ridiculous 70's prog-jazz. This may stay on my top list for a long time. Everyone should get this!

Larry Coryell - Spaces - I used to think that The Eleventh House Band was superior to Coryell's solo work, but I've been wrong the whole time (especially when the 11th House only has a few albums). This album is fantastic, one of the best examples of jazz TRULY fusing with rock. It's more jazz than rock, but very even IMO.

John Scofield - Loud Jazz - I love Scofield. He's one of my favorite guitarists. I didn't know what to think of this album, considering it came out in 1988, not the best time for jazz. Luckily the title of the album made me get it. Then I saw the lineup - John Scofield, George Duke, Dennis Chambers, Gary Grainger, and Don Alias, and i thought "WOW, that's a great lineup" So my expectations went up a little. When i listened to the music, i realized that it didnt really sound that "80's" and every song grooved and was a fire song. Great album, i recommend this and its companion album "Blue Matter"

Frank Zappa - Wazoo (2007) - This album just came out about 6 months ago, but was recorded during Zappa's Grand Wazoo tour in '72. I'm sure many on this site have heard this album, even though there's a lack of reviews. If you havent gotten this and you enjoy jazz-fusion you're missing out on a great record. This is live, with 22 musicians plus Frank. It's avant-guard big band jazz-fusion with one of the best versions of Big Swifty and probably a better version of The Grand Wazoo than the studio version.

i cant think of more right now, but i'll add more albums later.
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