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DatM ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: November 19 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Status: Offline Points: 95 |
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Yeah, I got confused there for a while, nevermind...
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CPicard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Là, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
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Er, I was answering to DatM (see above) who was asking if Thrash wasn't already a kind of "crossover". |
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mithrandir ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 25 2006 Location: New Mexico Status: Offline Points: 933 |
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were not talking about Thrash Metal here (in itself had some Hardcore influence), but the subgenre of Thrash Metal and Hardcore coined "Crossover", which started out as mostly Hardcore bands looking in a new direction for playing fast music, ie Thrashy picking, Crunchier guitar tones, Moshy breakdowns, etc. DRI, COC, SOD, Suicidal Tendencies, Agnostic Front, The Accused early Nuclear Assault and some others are probably the more proper examples of the subgenre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossover_thrash |
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46843 |
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damn... thought Nuclear Assault would have looked good in the same genre as ELO myself
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CPicard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Là, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
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Er, I won't say that thrash-metal was in se a "crossover" genre: it always was more rooted in heavy metal (especially NWOBHM) than hardcore.
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46843 |
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did someone say Crossover?
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DatM ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: November 19 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Status: Offline Points: 95 |
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A question for those in the know:
I've been brushing up on my metal history, checking bands in the late 70's, early 80's, and well... isn't thrash itself a blend of heavy metal and hardcore, making pretty much ALL Thrash "crossover" ? |
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Gentlegiantprog ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 31 2008 Location: Stafford Status: Offline Points: 238 |
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Nuclear Assualt ?
Maybe Not, but a damn fine band nonetheless. Also... Exhorder mention = thumbs up. Soul Search Me is the musical version of a swiss roll. |
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Let the maps of war be drawn !
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easytargets ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 12 2008 Location: Cantabria Status: Offline Points: 843 |
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Thanks, Hughes
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The water rushes over all
cities crash in the mighty wave; the final man is very small, plunging in for his final bathe |
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Petrovsk Mizinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
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Good question, but most likely not. Cool band though btw. They were pretty much a hardcore punk/metalcore hybrid, rather than a thrash metal/hardcore punk (which is a big part of crossover thrash). I can see how you may have thought they were crossover thrash, but not quite. |
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DatM ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: November 19 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Status: Offline Points: 95 |
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Exactly ![]() I like their later stuff too, but it's a completely different vibe. |
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mithrandir ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 25 2006 Location: New Mexico Status: Offline Points: 933 |
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put on Animosity! and Im moshing,
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UMUR ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 3082 |
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You mean the "old" COC right ?
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DatM ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: November 19 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Status: Offline Points: 95 |
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I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Corrosion of Conformity?
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kevdog ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: October 27 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 89 |
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Municipal Waste is a great band.
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I look at the world and see no understanding...
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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I hate hardcore.
Now that was a helpful post.... sorry.
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mithrandir ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 25 2006 Location: New Mexico Status: Offline Points: 933 |
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yup, early Grindcore bands, but also very much Thrashcore/Crossover especially in the Thrashy picking, Electro Hippies actually became more of a Crust band later on
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CPicard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Là, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
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Are we not on the edge of grindcore with these ones? |
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Toaster Mantis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
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Well, how much crossover thrash have you heard that uses the word "cytoplast" in their lyrics, or as drastic shifts in mood as the song Male Supremacy contains?
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mithrandir ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 25 2006 Location: New Mexico Status: Offline Points: 933 |
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when you say "sophisticated", Im assuming you mean it in more of an ironic sense? ![]() ![]() Jesus Hitler, Adolf Christ, Is this the second coming, or the 4th reich? |
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