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    Posted: July 02 2009 at 07:20
^ Then I'd rather stay faint-hearted. Let's stick on shocking pieces of music instead, not on some perverse acts to cheer it up.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2009 at 07:16
There was a guy even more insane than G.G. Allin, called Satan Panonski. If there ever was an enfant terrible of  ex-Yugoslavian scene, he's the one.



You may check his live performances on YouTube. But warning - that's not for the faint-hearted.









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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2009 at 07:14
Originally posted by Synchestra Synchestra wrote:

Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

Originally posted by mattmcl mattmcl wrote:

Quote I saw GG Allin "perform" back in the eighties. Nothing will ever come close.

i don't know if i consider that lucky or not.   what an experience.


Yeah, it was pretty sick. He was naked, defecated on stage and threw it into the audience, beat himself bloody with the mic, did some sick stuff with a dead cat, etc.


sweet


He did that pretty much every night, so this is probably why towards the end nobody cared.
Well depending on his age im not suprised... once your old its just silly LOL


And with that kind of lifestyle you get old very fast.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2009 at 06:12
Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

Originally posted by mattmcl mattmcl wrote:

Quote I saw GG Allin "perform" back in the eighties. Nothing will ever come close.

i don't know if i consider that lucky or not.   what an experience.


Yeah, it was pretty sick. He was naked, defecated on stage and threw it into the audience, beat himself bloody with the mic, did some sick stuff with a dead cat, etc.


sweet


He did that pretty much every night, so this is probably why towards the end nobody cared.
Well depending on his age im not suprised... once your old its just silly LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2009 at 04:32
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by meptune meptune wrote:

Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

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He was naked, defecated on stage and threw it into the audience, beat himself bloody with the mic, did some sick stuff with a dead cat, etc.

 
Brilliant. Is that what you'd call Prog.

Well, you might. John L., singer of Ash Ra Tempel, appeared naked on stage with a painted penis and had himself whipped.

Thats the power of Krautrock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2009 at 04:31
Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

Originally posted by mattmcl mattmcl wrote:

Quote I saw GG Allin "perform" back in the eighties. Nothing will ever come close.

i don't know if i consider that lucky or not.   what an experience.


Yeah, it was pretty sick. He was naked, defecated on stage and threw it into the audience, beat himself bloody with the mic, did some sick stuff with a dead cat, etc.


sweet


He did that pretty much every night, so this is probably why towards the end nobody cared.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2009 at 04:27
Originally posted by meptune meptune wrote:

Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

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He was naked, defecated on stage and threw it into the audience, beat himself bloody with the mic, did some sick stuff with a dead cat, etc.

 
Brilliant. Is that what you'd call Prog.

Well, you might. John L., singer of Ash Ra Tempel, appeared naked on stage with a painted penis and had himself whipped.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2009 at 04:12
Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

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He was naked, defecated on stage and threw it into the audience, beat himself bloody with the mic, did some sick stuff with a dead cat, etc.

 
Brilliant. Is that what you'd call Prog.


"Arf, she said"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2009 at 22:05
Originally posted by mattmcl mattmcl wrote:

Quote I saw GG Allin "perform" back in the eighties. Nothing will ever come close.

i don't know if i consider that lucky or not.   what an experience.


Yeah, it was pretty sick. He was naked, defecated on stage and threw it into the audience, beat himself bloody with the mic, did some sick stuff with a dead cat, etc.


sweet
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2009 at 21:54
lol GG Allin....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2009 at 21:39
Forgot to mention Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring.

Najinski's choreography no doubt added to the shock value, but I think a good deal of the credit still belongs to the piece. 
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2009 at 10:40
Nothing shocking about the Ligeti, nothing shocking about Coleman either. In both cases the alleged inaccessibility of the music is highly exaggerated.

Nothing shocking about G. G. Allin's music, just your regular punk rock early on, and later some kind of noise with foul language on top a la Whitehouse, as I'm given to understand.  Nothing really new or interesting, and I don't think anyone really attended Allin's concerts for the music, even if some of it might have appealed to punk or noise fans.

There's a recording somewhere of Charlie Parker playing during a mental breakdown, that might be shocking, but mostly because of the context, I guess. Wouldn't be surprised if this was an urban myth.

Throbbing Gristle has some pieces with really sick lyrics, but that would open up the way to all kinds of death metal/noise/power electronics ensembles, and none of these come across as shocking musically, or even lyrically nowadays. 

Henry Plainview mentioned Penderecki's Threnody, and it's an obvious choice.

Peter Maxwell Davies has two pieces dealing with madness - "Miss Donnithorne's Maggot" and "Eight Songs for a Mad King". They're  fairly shocking I guess, though there's likely more than a touch of black humour there.

Iannis Xenakis had a piece the title of which I don't remember (Pleiades?), which I found really beautiful, only to learn that to Xenakis it reminded of people scattering under machine gun fire, something he must have had more than his fair share of during WWII.

Beethoven's NInth made a few people go WTF?!! after its premiere, I wouldn't be surprised if his other late pieces did that as well.

Carlo Gesualdo's works might have made a few people stare in horror in his time.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2009 at 06:05
Originally posted by Green Shield Stamp Green Shield Stamp wrote:

Ligeti's Requiem still has the power to shock - the polytonality and atonality of the choir is quite unnerving.  It was used to good effect in parts of Stanley Kubrick's '2001: A Space Odyssey'.  Ornette Coleman's 'Free Jazz' is quite shocking - two separate jazz quartets improvising different things but recorded together, producing (to my ears) a formless cacophony.

Well, that requiem is one of my favorite pieces of music; it certainly does not shock me.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2009 at 05:46
Ligeti's Requiem still has the power to shock - the polytonality and atonality of the choir is quite unnerving.  It was used to good effect in parts of Stanley Kubrick's '2001: A Space Odyssey'.  Ornette Coleman's 'Free Jazz' is quite shocking - two separate jazz quartets improvising different things but recorded together, producing (to my ears) a formless cacophony.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2009 at 03:50
I have to agree with Jean about Amon Düül 2's "Dem Guten, Schönen, Wahren". Not only is it a song about a child molester, which switches between him boasting proudly about his deeds and an angry crowd which wants to first flog and then hang him, it is also hinted (though not explicitly stated) that the child molester is Jesus. I'd call this quite shocking, especially for 1969.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2009 at 15:17
Quote I saw GG Allin "perform" back in the eighties. Nothing will ever come close.

i don't know if i consider that lucky or not.   what an experience.


Yeah, it was pretty sick. He was naked, defecated on stage and threw it into the audience, beat himself bloody with the mic, did some sick stuff with a dead cat, etc.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2009 at 14:48
Cage's  4' 33"  or Earle Brown's December 1952 should probably be in contention. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2009 at 11:55
I usually don't listen to Sunn O))), but my friend told me to listen to "Bathory Erzsebet" and it's with out a doubt the scariest, piece of music I've ever heard.
Apparently, they locked their extremely claustrophobic singer in a casket and recorded his screaming for the vocals.
When my friend told me that, I was a bit skeptical at first, me being completely enthusiastic when it comes to anything and everything horrific/scary/creepy and never being freaked out by anything, so I figured "How scary could some screaming possibly be?"
Needless to say, it was actually pretty jarring the first time I heard it and I actually had to turn it off.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2009 at 11:46
There's supposed to be a recording circulating around the net of a Lebanese trumpeter playing to the accompaniament of Israeli bombs/shells falling around him. Haven't heard it personally, but I'd say it takes the cake.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2009 at 23:24
Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come in general.  And no, I didn't say that because it's considered "shock rock", though I do enjoy a pun from time to time
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