Please seperate Post Rock and Math Rock

Post rock and Math rock are not totally different genres, they are related enough to be put in one category, so i am happy with current situation having those together. BUT they have enough distinctive features to be genres of their own, separate genres, and i wouldn't object if someone is willing to split those genres and do that split since it is time consuming job and requires hard work . We will have another problem with recruiting math rock team members cos there aren't many experts on math rock on PA if any, except David.  

When Henry Plainview pointed out my mistake and said he hadn't heard of Peer Pressure.

Hah, my mistake. I was listening to the song "Republic of Rough and Ready" when I was typing that. Hold Your Horse Is has been one of my favorite albums since '04. He was going under the moniker "Zach Hill and Peer Pressure" when he released and toured Astrological Straits. The moniker referred to his band and his drumset (go figure). Just search Zach Hill and Peer Pressure to find some press about this project. And Astrological Straits is poppy like Dillinger Escape Plan is easy listening. If you liked Cryptomnesia or any of his work with Hella, you need to give Astrological Straits another chance. The drumming is out of this world. It is a drum album first and foremost.

Now someone buy me this shirt please.


Edited by EchidnasArf - July 11 2011 at 12:37

To the OP and anyone else interested in some math rock recommendations, a few personal favorites are:
Zach Hill and Peer Pressure - Astrological Straits (god, everyone needs this album)
Bygones - By - (10 killer songs between Nick Reinhart of Tera Melos and Zach Hill. seriously rad.)
Hella - Hold Your Horse Is* (my introduction to math rock. all instrumental. a classic)
Hella - There's No 666 In Outer Space (sick. to my knowledge, the first Hella release with a prominent vocalist. kind of a more raw, mathier TMV... or something. you decide.)

*fixed

All 4 of these albums feature the one of a kind Zach Hill on drums and he is a f*****g animal on every track. Zach Hill is the essential math rock drummer IMO.

Also... I feel like I may be kicking a dead horse here, so I'll make it short and sweet. I too feel like these 2 genres are on the verge of opposites musically, although they may have similarities in origination. I'd like to see an individual math rock category, but I also understand if it's too much of an undertaking to achieve this.


Edited by EchidnasArf - July 11 2011 at 12:41

Just had a quick chat with Slava about it and he says he will drop by tomorrow and check it out.

Dean wrote: Easy Money wrote: OK, so the current team for post and math rock is actually Anglmk, Atavachron, Alex and maybe Slava. It just hasn't been updated on the collab page yet. Angelo is in the process of tidying up the Collab ranks. I understand the confusion - perhaps we need a different title/honorific for past team members and those on sabbatical (like Ian), though (with deference to David et al), I'm not a fan of the "Specialist" tag.

Its a large busy site, its hard to keep up with all that, people come and go all the time.

Easy Money wrote: The only way to really know a genre is listen to a lot of bands in that genre. Has anybody in this discussion listened to a lot of different math rock and post rock bands?

yup

Well, David and Alex have given their opinions and Angel and Slava have both visited the forum today, so I assume they're happy with what Alex and David have said so far. Jody is also still suggesting bands to the Math Rock team so perhaps his opinion is worth garnering since he was intrumental setting up the initial pairing.

Easy Money wrote: Easy Money wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Easy Money wrote: It would be interesting to see what our post rock and math rock specialists recommend at this time. Umnfortunately Golden Spiral hasn't been around in a couple months, same for Chris H, and make that a year for Dim. Angelmk is the only member of either team who is around. I wonder if he has been asked his opinion on having these two desperate styles merged together. What? That's about 0% percent accurate. Sorry Alex, that was posted for Dean to check out. My team member list is based on what is listed on the collaborator page. If there has been a change in membership that is not yet listed, let me know.

What is listed on the category page contradicts your story and confirms mine. That's where you should look. Past Collabs don't loose their rank and title if they stop being around (usually).


Edited by harmonium.ro - June 04 2011 at 12:54

Easy Money wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Easy Money wrote: It would be interesting to see what our post rock and math rock specialists recommend at this time. Umnfortunately Golden Spiral hasn't been around in a couple months, same for Chris H, and make that a year for Dim. Angelmk is the only member of either team who is around. I wonder if he has been asked his opinion on having these two desperate styles merged together. What? That's about 0% percent accurate. Sorry Alex, that was posted for Dean to check out.

My team member list is based on what is listed on the collaborator page. If there has been a change in membership that is not yet listed, let me know.