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uduwudu
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Topic: A King Crimson poll Posted: October 08 2014 at 04:58 |
Red, Discipline era, ITCOTCK, S and BB. Larks, Thrak, USA. Most of the rest I enjoy and respect KC were always on such a precipice per album.
Earthbound anyone? On paper it looks a fine album, until I hear it.
The 80s trio with Absent Lovers (absolute classic) finishing that era off was the business. Belew's guitar contributions alone...
Fripp had a good band (!) and could really establish with this structure a great compositional statement for the length of time it was required, 3 volumes.
T Lev's Chapman Stick writing and playing was and is mindblowing. The detail and rhythmic density was unmatched. No wonder KC were in demand as session guys for Zappa, Bowie and Peter Gabriel and others.
Then they went to the pinnacle - the double trio era. Not sure they achieved the compositional consistency of the '80s era but the growth in performance was even more so, if possible.
And around this time (mid 90s) was Steve Hackett's band with the odd KC alumnus turning up. Now this was what Asia and GTR etc should have been - song oriented but not limited.
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 15:16 |
Up to and excluding Red, excluding Islands too. From Discipline onward excluding Beat and Three of a Perfect Pair. I like Thrak, but not so much Vroom. I love Space Groove.
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 14:02 |
for now, its the 70's, but i want to look into more of their music by era. though i do like the song "Three of a Perfect Pair" and the album The Power to Believe is pretty good, but not one of my favorites of theirs. oh, and happy 40th birthday to Red!!!!!
Edited by Michael678 - October 06 2014 at 14:03
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 11:02 |
Very interesting result: 81+6+17 = 104 KC's fans vs 1+2 = 3 others. Very clear result specially for "Funny Guys". 104 vs 3 Thanks and Respect to Progressive Music fans. Great shot guys. 
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 10:55 |
Svetonio wrote:
"Up to (and including) "Red" - is THE Crimson Era.
Imo.
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 10:41 |
How can you follow the first period? And Red was vital and warm-blooded while Discipline was distant and cold. All hail RED!!
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 02:14 |
It is not a surprise that 69-74 KC is winning because it is miles ahead of everything they ever did and ever will do and even at that they were not that great anyway
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Posted: October 05 2014 at 15:03 |
Crimson made albums after Red?  Oh, go on!
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Posted: October 05 2014 at 14:23 |
Up to and including RED, plus USA, plus The Night Watch, plus The Great Deceiver. Having said that, there are a few bits 'n' pieces of the 80s & 90s I like, such as the THRAK and B'Boom albums, Waiting Man from the Absent Lovers set and Sleepless from 3OAPP. The Construction of Light and Power to Believe are unlistenable. Not heard Scarcity of Miracles or anything immediately before & after that.
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Posted: May 16 2014 at 17:39 |
Up to and including Red
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Posted: May 16 2014 at 08:15 |
69-74 hands down
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Posted: May 16 2014 at 07:09 |
richardh wrote:
'I don't care' as their are only two KC albums that I really loveRed & Power To Believe KC are/were a patchy band imo. |
Ok, I'm jumping back on board this thread now I've explored Thrak, Power to Believe, Beat and TOAPP fully.
I would have to disagree that they were a patchy band. If anything I would say they were one of the most consistently good prog bands. Their 80's output craps over that of Genesis and most 80's Yes imo.
Only Construktion of Light and Starless and Bible black have parts that leave me cold.
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Posted: May 16 2014 at 06:38 |
Up to Red the Crims were an unstoppable tyrant! Then it went pear shaped i am afraid.
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Posted: May 06 2014 at 06:25 |
As much like the '80s trilogy, the albums up to Red are where the real quality is, the essence of the band.
Edited by Ruby900 - May 06 2014 at 06:26
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Posted: May 06 2014 at 04:35 |
The question is clear. Both. Everything. And including the Sylvian Fripp era.
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Posted: May 06 2014 at 04:18 |
The Power to Believe and Thrak are both excellent albums and up there with much of what they released up to and including Red imo. The 80's period is the weakest but does include some gems.
I've a lot of respect for KC.
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Posted: May 05 2014 at 17:48 |
I'm in agreement there! TPtB is an excellent album, and I have no reservation recommending it alongside the others from their previous inceptions. I like it better than Court, actually.
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Posted: May 05 2014 at 17:14 |
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Posted: May 05 2014 at 17:07 |
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Posted: May 05 2014 at 11:57 |
Easy vote for me: 'Up to and including Red'. I do like their 80s albums and Thrak from the 90s, but I don't think any of these albums can match the individualism, originality, and sheer power of the 70s Crimson.
Edited by Mirror Image - May 05 2014 at 11:57
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