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Points: 606 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:48
Originally posted by PeeWee PeeWee wrote:

Originally posted by geezer geezer wrote:


It never ceases to amaze me what kind of a problem you have with the other than English vocals. I feel so sorry for you. You have no idea what you are missing. It is hard for me to understand because I think the 70's Italian prog possessed some of the best vocalists. I would never want those great Italian vocals to be changed to great English vocals.

"When you have an eight minute song with one and a half minute of vocal at the start only, it can get quite boring"

This is exactly how I like it. I like it that the bands don't stick to normal song formulas. If they try to be normal, that it is what gets boring!

I actually like the italian vocals quite a lot. Italian is a very good fitting language for symphonic prog, and the vocalists are on average superioer to vocalists from other countries. I do hovewer think that the vocals on italian bands are to scarce.

And I do admit it, I do not like music to be too uncommercial either. I do appreciate a catchy tune, and therefore like bands like Spocks Beard and Echolyn.


Sorry, that was meant for DallasBryan. He is the one who has the language problem.
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it's all about the Goblin ~~!

 

 



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Originally posted by PeeWee PeeWee wrote:

I like quite a lot of italian prog. There is hovwer one thing that irritates me a bit about it, a fault that is also present in many other bands. I think that their vocals are to spare and often in the wrong spaces. When you have an eight minute song with one and a half minute of vocal at the start only, it can get quite boring.

Try to conceive the notes as portrait-painters of the subject the album is dealing with.

For example: in La conquista della posizione eretta the singer (in this case Francesco Di Giacomo) starts to sing at sixth minute of the suite and he describes the endavours by the primitive man to rise himself to the erect posture. But, in the *first six minutes* the MUSIC has already described it, with its moments of suspensions-and-conclusions (the man who tries to stand up and fall down), with its moments of quiet (the man who is recovering his strenght) or with its moments of sustained suspance (the man in front of his will-power).

Tell me what you think of it.

I agree with most of the sentences by geezer; I also want to thank Moogtron III and erik neuteboom for having tried to answer my question (erik, I found your idea interesting).



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Just enter this site!!!!!! All about italian prog!!!!

http://www.italianprog.com/

What about Venetian Power??? There's someone who've listened to them? and Alphataurus?

 
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Venetian Power cover.
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Do  someone knows the above mentioned site?
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Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

Do  someone knows the above mentioned site?

You mean www.italianprog.com? Of course, and i would guess that most who are into Italian prog knows about it.

And I like many bands featured on that site...
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Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

Just enter this site!!!!!! All about italian prog!!!!

http://www.italianprog.com/

What about Venetian Power??? There's someone who've listened to them? and Alphataurus?

 

I just bought the Alphataurus album yesterday  (an awful edition, sadly).

I was answering the question, but I have to go to lunch first.
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italianprog is a very good site, with a lot of info about every italian band

i also like movimentiprog

concerning Venetian Power, i've never heard of them

and Alphataurus, i know two songs, ombra muta and peccato d'orgoglio, but they did'nt urge me to buy the record  

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Originally posted by geezer geezer wrote:

Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

Do  someone knows the above mentioned site?

You mean www.italianprog.com? Of course, and i would guess that most who are into Italian prog knows about it.

No, I didn't. I'll check that one out.
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Oh wait, I recognise that site, www.italianprog.com . Yes, it's good.
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I have even used information from that site for my Italian progrock biographies on Prog Archives (I mentioned them), very interesting site, I often look at it before writing reviews!
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I've heard Alphataurus, Andrea. I wasn't very impressed. That Venetian Power cover looks frankly incredible, though. How could the music ever live up to a cover like that?

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I like the Alphataurus album but it's not among the very best of 70's prog.
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Points: 5964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2005 at 09:24
Nowhere near IMO. It struck me as being VERY uninspired, both in terms of performance and composition.
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Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Nowhere near IMO. It struck me as being VERY uninspired, both in terms of performance and composition.

11.58 on gnosis scale. I think I agree with them.
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Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

I've heard Alphataurus, Andrea. I wasn't very impressed. That Venetian Power cover looks frankly incredible, though. How could the music ever live up to a cover like that?

Incredible cover indeed! Never listened to the album yet.

What do you think about Locanda delle Fate?
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Points: 5964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2005 at 11:14
Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

I've heard Alphataurus, Andrea. I wasn't very impressed. That Venetian Power cover looks frankly incredible, though. How could the music ever live up to a cover like that?

Incredible cover indeed! Never listened to the album yet.

What do you think about Locanda delle Fate?

Is that the one that often gets referred to as "romantic"? I don't have my music collection with me to chekc up right now. If you do mean that band, then I think they're all right, but a bit too cheesy sometimes.
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Points: 4411 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2005 at 11:19

You're right, I think the album can be described as "romantic". Track 1, 2 and 5 are great, IMO.



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I’ve only heard one (long) track from the Alphataurus album, but was rather underwhelmed by it after all I’d heard about the band.

That Venetian Power LP definitely has a cool cover! The description of it over at italianprog.com doesn’t have me running out to shell out hundreds of bucks for it, though.
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