Old School Vs. New

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   Hey everyone this is my first post here at the archives and i was wondering what people think of the new school prog compared to the old do you guys think is better now, I think prog is kinda like a musical embrio that evolves and takes shape with the times what do you peeps think???

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Crazy Diamond Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: January 10 2006 Status: Offline Points: 18	Topic: Old School Vs. New Posted: January 10 2006 at 18:51
	Hey everyone this is my first post here at the archives and i was wondering what people think of the new school prog compared to the old do you guys think is better now, I think prog is kinda like a musical embrio that evolves and takes shape with the times what do you peeps think???

A'swepe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 08 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 590	Posted: January 10 2006 at 19:01
	I tend to agree with your evaluation. I also tend to prefer the "Old School" Prog to the new. That probably has more to do with my age than any other factor. Having been around & in the formative years (so to speak) when YES, ELP, Genesis (to name a few) were coming up had a huge impact on my young impressionable mind. Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of newer Prog: Rush, Spock's Beard, Flower Kings, Dream Theatre, Transatlantic, Glass Hammer, Wobbler, to name a few. I don't think either is "Better". A lot of new prog has built on the foundation of the old. Prog has changed & evolved with the times, rising & falling in popularity, even among the faithful. New Prog is simply (largely) different than old Prog. If you like something, embrace it; if you don't ignore it.
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Crazy Diamond Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: January 10 2006 Status: Offline Points: 18	Posted: January 10 2006 at 19:27
	well said, i actually prefer the "old school" too even though im only 20 years of age but it was yes elp genesis king crimson that actually led me to start listening to the newer stuff all in all prog if old or new is all good in my books

NetsNJFan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: April 12 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3047	Posted: January 10 2006 at 19:34
	I prefer the Old Stuff, Genesis, KC, Yes, Caravan, Gentle Giant, etc. only modern bands I like are Taal, Anglagard, Sigur Ros, and thats about it


Crazy Diamond Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: January 10 2006 Status: Offline Points: 18	Posted: January 10 2006 at 19:51
	I think the old stuff is better because music was never done that way befor and was new to the peoples ears where as the stuff now is just the product of what was done befor, i also think thats not a bad thing but theres no band now that has made such an impact on me musically then the bands back in the 70's but maybe that will in time...

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	I tend to listen to newer music, though I do love the old stuff as well. I think many of the modern bands are taking and expanding upon the past greats.
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Crazy Diamond Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: January 10 2006 Status: Offline Points: 18	Posted: January 10 2006 at 19:59
	oops lol that will CHANGE in time

Crazy Diamond Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: January 10 2006 Status: Offline Points: 18	Posted: January 10 2006 at 20:27
	Thats what i like about prog, and well, music in general, is that it over the years it skips, jumps and bounces off eachother into something thats completely different and the same all rolled into one.

Bj-1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 04 2005 Location: No(r)Way Status: Offline Points: 31664	Posted: January 10 2006 at 20:38
	I prefer 'Old School Prog' Newer stuff (with the exception of prog-metal) doesn't thrill me at all!
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Crazy Diamond Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: January 10 2006 Status: Offline Points: 18	Posted: January 10 2006 at 20:51
	Really? why is that?

alan_pfeifer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2004 Status: Offline Points: 823	Posted: January 10 2006 at 21:00
	I actually prefer Newer to Older prog. Save for King Crimson, alot of the earlier seems sapped of energy to me. but that's just my general opinion.

Crazy Diamond Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: January 10 2006 Status: Offline Points: 18	Posted: January 10 2006 at 21:06
	Well i dont think the old school was lacking any energy in my opinion it had just as much or more then todays but thats just me

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Guest Group	Posted: January 10 2006 at 21:10
	old school by a mile :). I've heard a few new prog bands and they sound like try hards to me

Crazy Diamond Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: January 10 2006 Status: Offline Points: 18	Posted: January 10 2006 at 21:22
	well of course they're try hards lol especially when they have to live up to yes genesis king crimson elp ect ect ect

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Guest Group	Posted: January 10 2006 at 21:25
	or even better bands in tull, gentle giant and camel :)

micky Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46843	Posted: January 10 2006 at 21:32
	definately old school here. Have heard some Dream Theater and some others like TMV and I thought they were..... not to my liking hah hah ha. The only 'new' prog group that really has 'grabbed' me would be Porcupine Tree.
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Rashikal Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 07 2005 Status: Offline Points: 546	Posted: January 10 2006 at 21:37
	i like newer stuff, but i HATE bands like Spocks Beard or Flower Kings or Glass Hammer. theyre just.. dso fake. i mean they just copy Yes and Gentle Giant and it's like... why listen to the posers when you can listen to the originals? i mean sure spocks beard follows the prog formula, but they arent prog at all. good new prog = coheed and cambria, opeth,carptree, the mars volta, dredg, fantomas etc. bands that are actually progressive! and i think it is ironic how most of the good prog bands are shunned while ppl praise magic pie and other bands that do NOTHiNG for prog besides copy older bands Edited by Rashikal
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Crazy Diamond Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: January 10 2006 Status: Offline Points: 18	Posted: January 10 2006 at 21:37
	yeah same for me too procupine tree has a certain sound that grasps my attention

The Miracle Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427	Posted: January 10 2006 at 21:39
	Old school. I love the new bands, they are talented and innovative, but... The sound is lost. When I listen to new bands I just don't get the feeling I get when I listen to the classics. For example, I really enjoy long, complicated epics of Transatlantic, with all the soloing, jamming, etc, but when I listen to Supper's Ready after I feel like I'm listening to something a level higher. It doesn't have many solos, it may be not as impressive musically, but the old proggers knew how to write genius compositions much better. There are a few exceptions, like The Mars Volta, Dream Theater, and The Works of Patton, many post rock bands. But those are slightly different cases, DT practically invented progmetal, which is a relatively young genre. Avant garde bands like TMV or Mr. Bungle sound fresh because they're doing something completely new, inventing along the way. That's what those new symphonic bands are missing, freshness of the compositions. Or that's just me Edited by The Miracle
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Forgotten Son Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: March 13 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1356	Posted: January 10 2006 at 22:09
	I think, as has been mentioned above, that preference for one over the other is largely based on which got you into the genre. I myself prefer newer prog as I got into the genre through Neo-Prog bands like Marillion, Pendragon and Arena. There are however exceptions, I really like Genesis, Camel etc but then I was listening to them early on in my discovery of Prog so perhaps that explains my liking of them over bands I listened to later, like Yes, King Crimson and Van Der Graff Generator, who I like quite a lot but noweher near the same level as I like Marillion or Camel etc.