How about this new prog rock?

Thanks for starting interesting topics like this one, Erik!

I think the main problem when listening new prog bands is that we already know we are not going to find a new Genesis. They are not going to be as good as the old dinosaurs from the 70s, for sure. Of course, prog style has changed since then and, ironically, now it shows much more influences from different styles than ever (it is difficult to link certain bands to only one prog style). But perhaps we expect to find the old "pure-symphonic" style in the new bands... and that's when we get disappointed. Also, I think that when these new bands try to mimic the style from the 70s the result is a complete failure, since they don't sound the same... they sound too clean, too refined, maybe too harmless. And we find ourselves saying "There's nothing innovative here". So there's no way we can be satisfied!! 

At least this is what happens to me, it's difficult for me to find a band from this century that really moves me. I guess we must learn to enjoy what these people can offer, without trying to compare them to anyone. I know some of you are able to do it, I am on my way...

Finally, I can't let the opportunity go by, now we can listen to some mp3 samples from SENOGUL in Progarchives. Enjoy some new prog!

http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAN D.asp?band_id=2349

Hello Carakhallo, I remember you from the Spanish prog thread .

Well I feel in some way like you, but as you said, I am of the ones who are able to not compare the new to the old. But I agree on the originality factor issue and the heard it before problem. There are however some new bands worthwell listening to which are presenting novel approaches to prog and hace this fresh new sound and not only in the symphonic prog genre - the list of bands mentioned earlier consist some of those and there are more. But there are those bands which are as you said not innovative and only redo what has been done before (in a good way, it nust be said) and yet I still manage to love and get excited when I hear them.

I Love Senogul, BTW.

 

Surely, a vast array of interests culminating in curiousity's apex, but I'll attempt to stand up to your requests:

I mostly like Pendragon, though I'm also suitable to hear from Echolyn, Anekdoten, Collage and Pallas.

All of which I professed to like have been heard on ProgArchives' mp3 stream (in exception to Pendragon and Collage, of which  I fortunately have them available to hear, at home, on  cd and  DVD, since PA doesn't have that many interesting songs to hear from those two).

It's always pleasant and appreciated to subject the newly born prog bands to the audience's delighted (or not) opinions, nonetheless, legends and ethereally superior veterans shouldn't suffer significant change in the assorted equilibrium.

It obviously depends on which band one is refering to, but overall, most emptions take place in two cd stores: one vibrant with bootlegs and rarities, though, relatively focused on metal, even if embracing many other different styles, as Yes and Rush can also there be found (and also Tool's Salival!!!); the other exclusively contains progressive rock - hence its name "ProgCds" - and 70's rock, whereas me and my brother have purchased what we considered very rare albums in Portugal, through ordering from foreign establishments and warehouses, including Pendragon's Liveosity!!.

Well, in jeopardy of exaggerating, ProgArchives is pratically my asylum from the world I've come to depict on another topic, thus, my second home.

Many other bands fail to appear in your list, as it's easily comprehend, of course, but I can always throw out my modest opinion on a few bands (don't know how much it'll contribute to): Andomeda (Sweden), Lord of Mushrooms (France - much better than the averagely stereotyped racial handicap), Little Atlas (USA - to support the general opinions), Oceansize (England), Spiraling (USA - not as intricate or appealing as the previous, perhaps), Forgotten Suns (Portugal - speaking of racial handicaps...), Apocaplypse (Brazil - not so much recent, though not that bad of a listen either, so as to retrieve recollections from Genesis, apart from the language sang, at some extent), Adagio (France - there is more to this band than the first track provided by the mp3 stream conveys, it seems), Frogg Café (USA), Stride (USA - a little better in comparison to what was here discussed towards Spiraling) and that's about all that imbues what I'm able to confide.

Also, thank you, Erik, for your contribution to the general knowledge on prog culture.


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I have send a message to my fellow collaborators to join my two threads about new prog and new symphonic rock so I am looking forward to their contributions/opinions ...

Or how about that US band LANDSEND??

Heard they were good

60+ mins of MP3s at www.transendland.net

At least then people can judge for themselves eh?

By the way, Discipline or Matthew Parmenter is my fave of the current crop of prog stuff..

But i also like: Flower kings, Cast, IQ, Mangala Vallis, Porcupine tree and DT

earlyprog wrote: erik neuteboom wrote: USA: Salem Hill/Presto Ballet/Echolyn/Glass Hammer Received Presto Ballet's "Peace among the Ruins" today. My impression after listening to it only once is not entirely positive. It is a bit too hard/heavy to my liking. It borders to prog metal and is reminiscent of Dream Theater. But ok to me in smaller doses.

Founding member and PB guitarist Kurdt Vanderhoof used to be in the band Metal Church.

So of course the music is going to be a little heavy.
 

chopper wrote: I agree with you about the USA bands - all the ones you've mentioned are brilliant. I would also add Little Atlas and IZZ to that list.

 

Am I the only one who dislikes IZZ?  They are vapid prog group. 

Hello ,Erik!!!

USA: Glass Hammer - they're on my wishlist
Have you heard DISCIPLINE's "Unfolded like Staircase"?????They're my fav band now!!!

Canada: Red Sand - I own their debut and it's excellent.Searching for "Gentry"

UK: Willowglass - ?
Pallas - nice,but not the best
Magenta - on my wishlist!!!
Mind Sky - ?
Pendragon - .I like not much from them

The Netherlands: Ayreon - nice,but not the best
Flamborough Head - on my wishlist!!!
Like Wendy - ?
Plackband - I have "After the Battle",and I dislike it
Ice/Lady Lake/Mangrove - ?

Belgium: Mindgames - ?

Italy: Doracor/Aries/Ubi Maior/Randone/La Maschera Di Cera - ?
Finisterre - I have an opportunity to listen to them(a friend of mine have thier CD-Rs ),but I don't want to...must I?
Mangala Vallis - I have "The Book of Dreams",and it is nice(personally I don't consider it to be ITAL-prog...it is closer to Neo)
/PFM/Banco/Le Orme - ...classic...

France: Nemo/Maldoror - ?

Norway: Mikromidas/Flagship - ?
Magic Pie/Wobbler - ...ah...they're the First in my wishlist!!!

Sweden: Anekdoten -
Simon Says - a wishlist-band
Liquid Scarlet/Moon Safari/Violent Silence - ?

Finland: Overhead - ?

Spain: Senogul/Zaguan/Unoma/PI2/Bijou - ?

Portugal: Sonic Pulsar - ?

Poland: Riverside - wishlist again.One of the first positions
Indukti - ?
Collage - !!!Their "Moonshine" is one of my favouritests CDs EVER!!!

Hungary: D-Sound/Solaris - ?
Have you heard AFTER CRYING?

Russia: Little Tragedies - just purchased their new album to be released,"New Faust" 2CD(by MALS license).Haven't you heard AVTOGRAF yet?I'd also recommend you NYL(vintage neo).When I release my own CD,you'll the first to know

Japan: Gerard/Ars Nova - I have the opportunity,but don't want to...must I?
Interpose - ?

Chili: Jaime Rosas Cuartetto/Angulart/Mar De Robles
Argentina: Amagrama/Nexus/Bauer - ???

USA: Salem Hill/Presto Ballet - ?
Echolyn - no.I dislike it.I like GG more

Which bands are overlooked?
almost all of them

Should new prog rock bands get more attention on this site?
YES!!!

Can you buy/order these bands easily in your country
no I must confess most of the stuff I have saved on CD-Rs...

on Internet?
I've no PC.An internet-cafe is my second home

Is Prog Archives your main source for prog rock?
Yes...and the best one!!!

Hi Prog-Jester,

Of your list I can say you should get Maldoror, Amagrama, Interpose and Overhead (others as well). I think you will appreciate those.

Geck0, I agree, Present is very good, enjoy it tremendously. Do you know if they will continue, or was it just that one effort?

 

BTW, don't remeber if anyone mentioned them, but in any case the French NIL are an excellent symphonic new prog. Their latest Nil Novo Sub Sole is an excellent effort, original album (female vocalist). Their previous effort Quarante Jours Sur Le Sinaï is a concept album with continuous play. Atmospheric, melancholic and beautiful harmonies.

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