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Points: 6699 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 17:31
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ I just don't understand how anyone could think that DT song structures are not progressive. I know - above I said that we should respect each other's opinions. But if an opinion is factually wrong (can be disproven by facts) then I can't see what's wrong with saying so.

If you really think that DT song strucutres are not progressive, please give me an example ... I'll gladly try to understand your point of view!
 
I myself used examples how Dream Theater uses different turnaround times, modulations, and signature changes to create a progressive structure to their music.  This stuff doesn't happen by accident.  I am just fine when people tell me they don't enjoy Dream Theater, but very rarely do I respect a disrespectful claim that Dream Theater doesn't make progressive music.

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Points: 2703 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 17:36
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Originally posted by pirkka pirkka wrote:

Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Pirkka, also try Pain of Salvation, if you haven't already.  They are the proggiest metal band I know of and infact, I find them borderline metal at times.  If any prog-metal band deserves to be here, it's Pain of Salvation.
 
Thanks! Ordered The Perfect Element Vol.1 and Entropia to start with.
 
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Well I hope you enjoy them after my recommendation.  Entropia is an excellent album.  I don't have The Perfect Element Volume 1 yet, however.  If you like them, I recommend Remedy Lane as well.  They're quite diverse.  BE is their most difficult to get into apparently and I've yet to hear it, so it'll be interesting to see what I think of it.
 
First of all I fully agree with Geck0's general view on PoS - this is the best prog band using metal stylistics from the whole bunch described as "prog-metal" here.
 
As to their albums (I have all of them) - I like Entropia the least; BE is probably the second best (most complex and variable) after "12:5", which is my absolutely favourite.
I would definitely recommend you to get DVD of BE - apart from music, quality of which is almost as good as of studio CD, you also get quite of a show there.
And, of course get yourself "12:5" - this is acoustic live versions of older songs and it's absolutely bloody brilliant - and practically no metal sound in it.
Remedy Lane is the third best for me, and the remaining albums are all very good IMO.
 
 
 
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Points: 101 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 19:47
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Proghat Proghat wrote:

I'm actually really starting to hate seeing Metal on this site. I don't think it belongs on here. I like Dream Theater, Angra, Opeth, Death, Shadow Gallery, Pain of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Porcupine Tree, etc. -- but if I'm in a "PROG" mood, I don't listen to these bands. That's because prog metal is a subgenre of Metal -- not Prog.


*sighs* ... what happened to all the tolerance in the world?

BTW: Why are Porcupine Tree in that list?Wink

I have plenty of tolerance, but there are sometimes whne I feel like grouping the Prog Metal guys with the other Prog guys just causes problems. Also, the reason I listed PT is... Well, listen to Wedding Nails.
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But that is only one PT song of many...

Surely they cannot be categorised differently because of only one song?Wink
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Points: 976 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2006 at 06:26
I think this topic had changed its original discussion and has already had enough.
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Points: 4079 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2006 at 14:20
Originally posted by Mr. Sanchez Mr. Sanchez wrote:

For me, It is hard to pick which of the two albums is better...I grew up listening to DT, and I enjoy their music very much. It took me a while to get into Tool, but when I eventually did, I loved them to bits! Tool are undoubtedly a great band.To say that Tool have 'overtaken' DT on the list is going a bit far...Sure, Lateralus IS the top of the list, but when you have a look at the whole list you will find that DT has 9 or so albums listed, whereas Tool have only 2.Interesting to know that someone else has an album on the top though


Like you, I got into DT before Tool, although I had heard Tool before DT. Weird, huh? Reason being, I only heard Sober and Prison Sex. I thought they were simply bizarre. But one day I heard Eulogy on the radio. Well, that's all she wrote. I find both bands great, but Tool really as a "je ne sais quoi". Tool remains to me a mystery while DT is quite defined, at least in my book.
    
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Points: 221 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2006 at 14:43
I really prefer SFAM, and I think they really deserve it
I still can't get how Dream Theater music is created by humans

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Points: 13033 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 00:59
So then The Mars Volta will overtake them all...
 
 
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