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    Posted: May 16 2007 at 12:15

The purpose of this subject is to discuss, why so many bands specially old school prog- bands always, again always playing the same old tunes every times they go on tour.

I don’t mind if the band does new version live or new meddle section on the songs, but to play the same songs just the same like in the studio is irritating and pure boredom.

Let me give some example to be more specific:

Jethro Tull:

Aqualung

Cross eyes marry

Yes:

Starship troopers

Roundabout

I see all good people

Rush:

Free will

Closer to the heart

Kansas:

Dust in the wind

Carry On

Pink Floyd:

Learning to Fly

Another Brick in the Wall.

Just to name a few.

 I always wonder why they always playing the same boring songs.!

Is it because the fans demanded? or is their chose?. I am a big fan of these bands, but I am sick and tire of these songs I may have like 8 version of the starship trooper and Maybe 20 of aqualung!!!. Also every times they put out and DVD or live albums the same boring songs are there.

From  theirs such rich and big catalog, why they can’t perform their other songs. I would love to hear Tull play something from A passion play or Mystery in the gallery stuff like that and do so impro like back in the 70’s and Yes doing some songs form Drama. Get my point?

That’s why I always have the great music admiration of  KING CRIMSON because they have always made their music live so interesting, fresh and sometimes new. If you listen to a boxset they put out form the wetton/bruford/cross/fripp line up every night they did inpros and new version of the songs awesome!!! And they still do the same thing They kept the 70’s feel alive.Wink

 I want to hear your opinions!!!Ouch

 

 

 

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 12:18
In the words of The Kinks, "Give the People What They Want."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 12:26
Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

In the words of The Kinks, "Give the People What They Want."

Exactly. Unfortunate, but that's the way it is everywhere. On the radio station that plays classic rock here, you'll only hear the major hits. It would be grounds for celebration if I heard a Yes song other than Roundabout. I'm assuming live shows are no different, people may not get a chance to see these bands often and when they do see them they want to hear the hits.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 12:40
YES, indeed
progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 12:56
I have NEVER liked "Roundabout"; I was tired of it even before the first time I heard it! But "Starship Trooper" is a different story. I've always loved it, and I still do, even after 37 years. So if that's what the people want, I don't blame them. Problem is, the only time I saw Yes live (in Antwerp during the Going for the One tour), Steve Howe DELIBERATELY messed up the final riff by losing the rhythm! Guess he didn't like the sound of (give or take a few) 20 000 Belgians clapping.

As for Ian Anderson & Co, when I saw them a few years ago, they themselves seemed totally bored with "Aqualung". They tried to save the situation by messing around the choruses and verses, but they STILL sounded bored. In such a case, I don't know why they even bother trying... King Crimson, on the other hand, were enjoying "Red" and "Lark's tongues pt. 2" ENORMOUSLY when they played them (as a "double trio") during the THRAK tour. Now THAT's the spirit! Fortunately, they stayed away from "Schizoid Man"...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 13:33
The reason they play them is that the majority of the crowd expect them to play them.  Kansas always plays Dust and Carry on as encores so that the people stay for the rest of the show.  They call these people Dust 'n Bolters.
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 15:46
Thanks to "..all good people" I am totally divorced from any Yes DVD by now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 17:35
Stop your complaining darksideof. I'm only 17 and would kill to go back in time to see Pick Floyd, Yes Zappa etc.
Just be happy that you got to see good bands no matter what they played.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 17:40
I think King Crimson is the band for you then. Wink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 17:41
My Frustartion with Gentle Giant. 
 
They perform the same song live.  Why? 
 
Where can I find?
 
"Giant"
"Wreck"
"Think of me with Kindness"
"Schooldays"
 
 
Prog bandds need to know how to vary their setlists
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 17:56
I'm really tired of Limelight.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 19:20
Originally posted by Speesh Speesh wrote:

Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

In the words of The Kinks, "Give the People What They Want."

Exactly. Unfortunate, but that's the way it is everywhere. On the radio station that plays classic rock here, you'll only hear the major hits. It would be grounds for celebration if I heard a Yes song other than Roundabout. I'm assuming live shows are no different, people may not get a chance to see these bands often and when they do see them they want to hear the hits.
 
Well don't they play "Owner of a Lonely Heart", too? Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 19:26
Originally posted by Hatters Hatters wrote:

Stop your complaining darksideof. I'm only 17 and would kill to go back in time to see Pink Floyd, Yes Zappa etc.
Just be happy that you got to see good bands no matter what they played.
 
Exactly! You people are so lucky to have seen any of those...
 
 Nowadays many bands still tour, yet the prices can be outrageous (I don't have $200 to see Tull!), and the same bands are a little past their prime, to say the least.
 
Besides that, the examples of songs that are "played over and over" are just a few for each band. No concert is going to be ALL singles/hits, just a few of them because they get a good response from most crowds. I do get tired of the radio hits as well, but it's not a crime to play them...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 22:04
I had the radio on the other night in the car driving home from Melbourne , I was caught  with nothing interesting to listen to but typical radio friendly tunage so I considered putting on a CD but I decided to switch bands one time , I stumbled across a a renegade DJ  who was talking about 70`s prog  I wondered what was going on  next thing he played a live version of And You And I by Yes  I thought cool !   then he played Epitaph by King Crimson  and on and on it went  Floyd, ELP   it spun me out !!  Shocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 22:10
Originally posted by Hatters Hatters wrote:

Stop your complaining darksideof. I'm only 17 and would kill to go back in time to see Pick Floyd, Yes Zappa etc.
Just be happy that you got to see good bands no matter what they played.
That's not a very positive attitude. And I'm almost positive he's talking about classic prog groups touring today.
 
People want to hear those. I don't know why: I've heard DSOTM enough times that nothing would induce me to pay money to go see/hear it live unless I were traveling back in time. Just like I can't imagine anyone in the whole world paying a lot of money to go hear the Rolling Stones play Satisfaction on their 2005 tour. But obviously it works, or they wouldn't do it.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 22:51
I know you have to give people what they want, but heavens, with some bands it's just beating something to death. Rush should finally retire Closer to the Heart and Yes should definitely retire Roundabout. How can they still play those songs with any sense of life? They must be sooo sick of them. I liked Saga's idea of taking one of their classics (World's Apart) and playing it live in its entirety.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 23:00
Originally posted by ClassicRocker ClassicRocker wrote:

 Nowadays many bands still tour, yet the prices can be outrageous (I don't have $200 to see Tull!)



where are you having to pay that amount to see Tull? They're one of the most frequently touring classic prog bands, and tickets don't usually run higher than 40 or 50 dollars in the U.S... even scalpers wouldn't try charging $200 for Tull.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 23:01
Originally posted by Bern Bern wrote:

I think King Crimson is the band for you then. Wink


exactly, they rarely play stuff from earlier periods (except larks tongues etc...) and when they do its a completely new and awesome version.  They truly are a progressive live experience
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 23:24
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by ClassicRocker ClassicRocker wrote:

 Nowadays many bands still tour, yet the prices can be outrageous (I don't have $200 to see Tull!)



where are you having to pay that amount to see Tull? They're one of the most frequently touring classic prog bands, and tickets don't usually run higher than 40 or 50 dollars in the U.S... even scalpers wouldn't try charging $200 for Tull.


 
Heh, well sorry to inform you, but recently Tull tickets went on sale in my area, and the prices ranged from $100 (for the worst seats) all the way to $250+!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 23:35
Dream Theater always plays "Pull Me Under" and about the 4th time I saw them, they started to play it yet again. I was kinda like- "oh great" BUT, they played it really fast, mixing up the tempo- it was excellent!



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