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King Crimson776 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 12 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2784 |
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There are tons of polls about symphonic and prog metal. I was just wondering what the general consensus on jazz fusion is on Prog Archives. Some of the artists are just members of some of the bands on the list, but sometimes people like the solo output better than the band. If there are any great lesser-known jazz fusion bands that you know about, I'd love to hear some suggestions as this is one of my favorite genres.
My vote goes for Miles, can't argue with Bitches Brew and Jack Johnson. Edited by King Crimson776 - November 16 2007 at 16:43 |
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glass house ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 16 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 4986 |
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Now playing Elegant Gypsy by mr.Meola - excellent!! I've got Believe it by Tony Williams, Holdsworth playing, another great album. Brand X are very good. Gonna choose Return To Forever though. They released at least 4 beautiful albums
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Good list there. Had to go with the local (to me) guys, Dixie Dregs. I've seen them live so many times I lost count.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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King Crimson776 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 12 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2784 |
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RTF, yeah, one of the greatest musician bands ever. Where Have I Known You Before is an incredible album.
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King Crimson776 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 12 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2784 |
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Would you guys consider Soft Machine jazz fusion?
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b_olariu ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2007 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 5653 |
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Good topic pal, anyway i choose Brand X, super, the first 2 albums are essential, but i like many of your list including Dixie Dregs, Return to Forever, Weather Report, etc. You forget to put on your list some fine jazz bands like Passport one of my favourite bands ever, Iceberg from Spain also very good Lotus from Sweden is another fine jazz band. So, i vote for Brand X and their jazz with canterbury flavour specially on the first Unorthodox beaviour from 1976.
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glass house ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 16 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 4986 |
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Fusion yes, they put ( fuse ) loads of styles together. Jazz fusion in the sense of the list you made, no.
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darkshade ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 10964 |
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after all is said and done...
.. Miles
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dwill123 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 19 2006 Status: Offline Points: 4460 |
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The Mahavishnu Orchestra
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fungusucantkill ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2005 Location: New Orleans Status: Offline Points: 618 |
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god damn. so freakin many. Miles, Mahavishnu, yellowjackets, Brand X, and weather report. jaco, mclaighlin, zawinul pretty much make up these bands.
and also props to wayne shorter but i like him under his jazz name rather than fusion. |
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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Of course, one of the pioneering groups |
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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Somewhat retro-looking list, especially with 2007 turning out to be a vintage year for new jazz fusion albums:
Machacek etal: Improvision Hellborg: Art Metal T Latvitz: School Of The Arts Eivind Aarset: Sonic Codex Soft Machine Legacy newie Ahmad Mansour: Free Speech Uncle Moes Space Ranch: Moe's Town Theo Travis: Double Talk Asaf Sirkis & Inner Noise: The Song Within |
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King Crimson776 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 12 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2784 |
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Yeah, I don't know much new jazz fusion, there is some stuff like planet x and even Cynic is on some lists but I didn't want to have any iffy ones. If there is another band that you want to pick just go other and say who it is.
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King Crimson776 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 12 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2784 |
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Do you think any of these guys stand a chance against the classics though? Remember, this is a "favorite all-time" list, not a "who are you into right now" one. Edited by King Crimson776 - November 16 2007 at 18:07 |
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markosherrera ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 01 2006 Location: World Status: Offline Points: 3252 |
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Jean Luc Ponty
Azymuth
Oregon
Yellow Jackets
Spyrogyra
Acoustic Alchemy
Opa
I love Brazilian jazz fusion
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markosherrera ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 01 2006 Location: World Status: Offline Points: 3252 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjXN3OLgoqs listen!!!
this perhaps is not jazz fusion I dont know but is awesome..
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Didn't know T had a new one out hadn't been keeping up with him lately. It that Soft Machine actually new material? Don't have much Hellborg. Love Octave of the Holy Innocents. He really shines on that Mahavisnu Orchestra DVD. |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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Strictly Soft Machine Legacy - Marshall, Etheridge, Hopper and Theo Travis more than adequately standing in the shoes of the late Elton Dean - new for sure and it is dynamic record, I guess with a something to prove. Picked up on the Latvitz record School Of The Arts with the amount of praise heaped on it at Fusenet - now I have it I too can say it is a goodie. Largely unplugged (apart from three tunes guesting Jerry Goodman and John Patitucci plugging in a couple of times) it is an upbeat record with musicians clearly enjoying themselves and getting the message across. The new Hellborg Art Metal, has the bass maestro exploring more new fusions; jazz rock, Indian and heavy metal - and to most it work very well - Jazzwise has the only negative comments with a 1* star rating - I would would say it is at the other end of ratings spectrum. |
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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Absolutely, jazz (rock) fusion is one of the few old prog sub genres that has truly progressed. While classic recordings are further apart than the early 70's they most certainly come around. Jon Newey (editor of Jazzwise magazine and compiler of the long discography at the rear of Stuart Nicholson's essential book on the subject Jazz Rock A History), compiled an essential 10 albums for Mojo Collectibles magazine. He came up with some obvious and undeniable classics from the 60's and 70's : Emergency, Bitches Brew, Third, Inner Mounting Flame, Hymn Of The Seventh Galaxy, Mysterious Traveler, Spectrum. He thought it essential to include a couple of later classics. He asked a number of people including myself, although in the end went for Scott Henderson and Tribal Tech. I suggested and vry much stick to: Hellborg/Shrieve/Buckethead's Octave of The Holy Innocents (but avoid the remixed version issued a couple of years ago) and Conrad Schrenk & Extravaganza's Save The Robots - which have remained favourites for over a decade. The latter is regularly nominated the best album of the 90's by those who have heard it - which reflects the problem of spotting "classic" albums over the last 20 years with their relatively obscurity and release through small labels and only in a few countries. As to personal classics more than 20 years old: Bruford's Feels Good To Me ((in my top 3 since the late 70's) Tony Williams Lifetime: Turn It over (perhaps the first album I owned to which the term jazz rock was attached) The New Tony Williams Lifetime: Believe It - great to see Holdsworth and Pasqua play a few of those tunes in London in May. Allan Holdsworth's early solos: Road Games and IOU (perhaps because of the vocals, and this was the peak of Holdsworth's composing period IMHO) Pat Metheny Group: American Garage |
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ProgBagel ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: May 13 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2819 |
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Mahavishnu easily! I quite like Brand X a lot.
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