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Posted: March 25 2008 at 09:33

Aqualung - Jethro Tull
Tormato - Yes
The Snow Goose - Camel
Vapour Trails - Rush
Lionheart - Kate Bush

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Posted: April 04 2008 at 14:27

PFM - chocolate kings

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Posted: April 04 2008 at 17:00

I think the one that really failed to deliver what I expected was Si On Avait Besoin D'Une Cinquieme Saison - Harmonium. Perhaps I expected too much after a superb sample (Depuis L'Automne), but I really hoped for llots of the dark textures from the first half of that, and the album just didn't really deliver them. Emotionally pretty bland for me, and a nice listen, but not involving at all. Not a bad album, per sé, but I just don't understand how it'd deserve a five star rating.

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Posted: April 08 2008 at 17:32

limeyrob wrote:

Anglagard - Hybris & Epilog - what is the fuss about, what am I missing?????

If you don't know the answer, I would surmise you are frequenting the wrong forum and site.......

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Posted: April 08 2008 at 18:18

As I've probably mentioned before, the only true disappointment was Discipline by King Crimson. Not at all my type of music, with a few exceptions. Too big a step from the good ol' 70s, it just felt cold and electronic after Red. And those strange vocals, waste of Adrian Belew's talent. Naah, not my thing at all. And if you play the close-minded card on me for saying that, I think I'll survive it Wink

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Posted: April 09 2008 at 21:06

War Child - Jethro Tull
Brain Salad Surgery - ELP
Benefit - Jethro Tull
Time and a Word - Yes
Nursery Cryme - Genesis
Rain Dances - Camel
Nude - Camel (sorry guys)
Beat - King Crimson (or it's that I'm not ready or this isn't my type of music)
Free Hand - Gentle Giant
Perfect Strangers - Deep Purple
to continue..

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Posted: April 09 2008 at 21:10

L'Heptade by Harmonium. I suppose it's good music, but the strings just drip with so much melodramatic sweetness, it's off-putting,

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Posted: April 09 2008 at 21:13

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1. Supertramp - Crime of the Century
i got this, based on PA reviews.

As far as I'm concerned, this is not progressive rock...not even close to it.
Is it rock ? yes. Is it good rock ? Well, it's OK.
Prog ? NO !
I gave it to my cousin who loves it.

Yeah, I so don't get this one either. Confused

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Posted: April 09 2008 at 21:28

stonebeard wrote:

Utah Man wrote:

1. Supertramp - Crime of the Centuryi got this, based on PA reviews.As far as I'm concerned, this is not progressive rock...not even close to it.Is it rock ? yes. Is it good rock ? Well, it's OK. Prog ? NO !I gave it to my cousin who loves it.

Yeah, I so don't get this one either. Confused

why?

... It's not symphonic neither electric but it's prog! Of course is badly put on the top 10!! but it's prog maybe not the best of prog not even close but IT IS prog a different style of prog but it is prog, so on.........it is prog.....it is prog....is it?....haha...

If you're willing to take another risk to afirm that they're prog please purchase Brother Where You Bound! Please! It has David Gilmour in it!

.. If not Even in the Quitest Moments.. please give Supertramp another chance! hehe

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Posted: April 09 2008 at 21:28

Blacksword wrote:

Aqualung - Jethro Tull
Tormato - Yes
The Snow Goose - Camel
Vapour Trails - Rush
Lionheart - Kate Bush

Aqualung ?
Snow Goose?

Do you like Minstrel?
Do you like Moonmadness?

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Posted: April 10 2008 at 20:40

cacho wrote:

why?

... It's not symphonic neither electric but it's prog! Of course is badly put on the top 10!! but it's prog maybe not the best of prog not even close but IT IS prog a different style of prog but it is prog, so on.........it is prog.....it is prog....is it?....haha...

Wow, you used the word prog 8 times in those few sentences. That has to be some kind of record. We have a winner!

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Posted: April 10 2008 at 20:50

cacho wrote:

War Child - Jethro Tull
Brain Salad Surgery - ELP
Benefit - Jethro Tull
Time and a Word - Yes
Nursery Cryme - Genesis
Rain Dances - Camel
Nude - Camel (sorry guys)
Beat - King Crimson (or it's that I'm not ready or this isn't my type of music)
Free Hand - Gentle Giant
Perfect Strangers - Deep Purple
to continue..

disappointed in comparison to what? My guess at your age you have nothing to compare these (mostly) gems against. So I am not sure you can be disappointed until you have spent some years listening, absorbing, learning, understanding and appreciating what you are hearing. My guess is that your tastes haven't evolved enough to really appreciate what you are hearing. For instance, what specifically was disappointing about Nursery Cryme? Compared to what? How long did you listen to it before you labeled it a disappointment? Have you heard any live versions of Musical Box and Hogweed and Salmacis yet? Do you understand and appreciate the story behind Musical Box and Salmacis, and appreciate the obtuse English aburdist humor? What about Brain Salad Surgery were you disappointed in? Again, in comparison to what? How much ELP have you listened to over what period of time? Or are you just not ready for some of this stuff at your age, and are biting off more than you can chew?

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Posted: April 10 2008 at 21:05

Squonkman wrote:

cacho wrote:

War Child - Jethro Tull Brain Salad Surgery - ELP Benefit - Jethro Tull Time and a Word - Yes Nursery Cryme - Genesis Rain Dances - Camel Nude - Camel (sorry guys) Beat - King Crimson (or it's that I'm not ready or this isn't my type of music) Free Hand - Gentle Giant Perfect Strangers - Deep Purple to continue..

You're f**king stupid ain't you right? Yep you're...

I think Nursery Cryme is a dissapointment. A problem with that!!
Comparison? With Trespass, Foxtrot, SEBTP and TLLDOB. Got it! Yeah of course I heard the live version and I love em that's why I would have prefered saving my money on just buying Genesis Live than Nursery Cryme.

You're not better than me!!! Get that straight in your oldish mind I'm sure when you were a child you were a little bit more intelligent and
wise than now!

You are the one that's bitting what you can chew! Abuser! You don't dare to challenge anyone else from PA except for a 14 year old that knows more prog that when you were 14!

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Posted: April 10 2008 at 21:16

I fear for the future......

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Posted: April 10 2008 at 21:22

Squonkman wrote:

cacho wrote:

why?

Wow, you used the word prog 8 times in those few sentences. That has to be some kind of record. We have a winner!

oh really I didn't realised!!

Boring, nobody laughed!..

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Posted: April 12 2008 at 08:49

There are lots of prog releases that I would rate very low due to their lack of originality (clones of major bands), the prominence of showing-off, or their commercial character (I don't refer to the number of albums sold, but the "pop-iness" of the music)

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Posted: April 12 2008 at 11:11

stonebeard wrote:

L'Heptade by Harmonium. I suppose it's good music, but the strings just drip with so much melodramatic sweetness, it's off-putting,

If you mean the musical interludes, I agree. I used my Nero software to edit most of them out so as to fit the double album on one CD. As an aside, I also edited 7 minutes out of King Crimson's moonchild. That somehow made ITOTCK the classic album we all claim it to be.

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Posted: April 12 2008 at 14:59

Draconean wrote:

Here's my list:

1) Magna Carta - Lord of the ages
2) Dream Theater - Awake
3) Thought Industry - Mods carve the pig
4) Psychotic Waltz - Into the everflow
5) Queensrÿche - Promised land

Except #1 I consider these albums however not the worst ones I own. But IMO they were (and still are) very dissapointing. Especially in comparison to their predecessors which I consider masterpieces of prog.

If I read this right, you're considering 'Empire' by Queensryche a 'masterpiece of prog'. While I do appreciate Empire, I certainly wouldn't consider it a masterpiece of prog, frankly, 'Promised Land' is proggier, Empire more mainstream.

Just my two cents.

My five most disappointing...

1) Not as Good as the Book - The Tangent (not as good as the hype)
2) From Genesis to Revelation - Genesis (maybe not prog per se, but I though it would be, it was disappointing to me.
3) Start the Fire (Live) - RPWL (wow, he really can't sing 'World Through my Eyes' without processing.
4) Spock's Beard - Spock's Beard (It was only my second Spock's Beard album, as it turns out, it ended up being my least favorite, but at the time, I thought the band would be a one album wonder)
5) Tie - 'Adam and Eve' and 'The Sum of No Evil' - The Flower Kings (No valid reason other than niether album impressed me to listen to it more than a handful of times)

Edited by Roland113 - April 12 2008 at 15:06

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Posted: April 12 2008 at 17:46

Squonkman wrote:

I agree with that , but the guy has just 14.When I was that age i listened to Andres Calamaro , La Renga and Los Fabulosos Cadillacs , all local (Argentinean) pieces of crap.

Probably he changes his mind too fast about a band or a record, and it would be rather bizarre to listen to KC at that age (although beat is really accesible)

And about nursery cryme .... well :whats wrong about this album is that it has clearly 3 amazing songs already named, but the rest of the stuff is not up to the 4.39 rating that the record has.

I mean Lizard barely reaches 4 stars, an album has to be truly great to have that rating

Besides dissapointment is an emotion and you express it quickly , you do not analyze and come up to a conclution.

For example: I heard today "We are only in it for the money" and was very dissapointed becouse its a well -known high -praised Zappa album.And it did not live up to my expectations.

On the other hand I listened to "Burnt weeny sandwich" and it was a big surprise to find out that it was amazing.

By the way, BSS can be disapointing at first but it tends to grow steadly on you after hearing "Welcome back...

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Posted: April 12 2008 at 18:12

You don't have to like every album...

Just because an album has a high rating doesn't mean that everyone is going to like it.

Come on! People are allowed to have their own taste. No one should be ridiculed or questioned simply
because they dislike an album that someone else likes. There's no use n forcing yourself to like something
just because other people do. People like what people like and they dislike what they dislike. Don't
downcast someone for their tastes.

Not to mention that the argument "you don't like it then you don't know what you're talking about" is simply
rubish. Tastes are tastes are tastes. Give the guy a break, forcing your opinions about the albums on him
aren't likely going to change his opinions on them.

If one of you said that you didn't like Rush's Moving Pictures I wouldn't attack you with logic that says
"comform!" I would accept that (again) your tastes are different than mine!

Finally! Age has nothing to do with it! How many 14 year olds do you know that listen to Prog? I know only
Cacho. Everyone else that age is out in front of Church's chicken pretending to be gangsters and listening
to Fitty-cent. I'll give a solid Clap

to Cacho for knowing what he likes (in his wardrobe).

End of rant.

PS - I will surely receive flak for this post. Wink

Edited by King By-Tor - April 12 2008 at 18:14