John Cale for PA... I'm a mad person? - Progressive Rock Music Forum

Is the "Academy in Peril" ? Wink

I'd say he's a better & more obvious fit than VU or Lou Reed ... maybe we do a little trick and post the suggestion as a 2 for 1 - John Cage/John Cale ???

Edited by debrewguy - January 11 2009 at 11:15

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Mandrakeroot wrote:

I'm a mad man if I suggested John Cale for PA inclusion?

Not at all , I totally agree. I may be a layman, but I think that some of his albums might be regarded as avant-prog due to his modern classic and minimalist influences.

In another thread or poll concerning possible additions to PA, maybe a few months ago, I voted for a few bands or artist including Velvet Underground, with the remark that John Cale is more PA-compliant than Lou Reed.

I bought a copy of The Academy in Peril a few weeks ago. This album meanders from rather classical to sort of RIO. Music for a new Society is one of my all-time favourite albums, but that is not a prog indication, just personal taste. Paris 1919 is also excellent, even if it is not a prog album.

To cut a long story short, I won't go as far as saying Honi Soit qui Mal y Pense to anyone who is opposed to the inclusion of John Cale in PA, but the idea makes me enthousiastic.

Edited by someone_else - January 11 2009 at 14:25

debrewguy wrote:

Is the "Academy in Peril" ? Wink

I'd say he's a better & more obvious fit than VU or Lou Reed ... maybe we do a little trick and post the suggestion as a 2 for 1 - John Cage/John Cale ???

Seconded! Thirded! Gazillioned!

I am all for the inclusion of John Cale, at least as prog-related. but since I am usually off (from 4 suggestions two were rejected and one is, after over a year, still pending), what do I know? Confused

A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta

Seriously NO kidding, the idea of an Avant-pop musical genre is fantastic. What other artists would there be? I'd say Bjork fits there, too. Possibly AIR and PJ Harvey?

I personally believe Cale has fewer prog credentials than comparable characters like Bowie or Captain Beefheart, even though Cale HAS dabbled in avant-garde, he HAS composed a couple of "classical" soundtracks and he HAS played with Phil Collins!

On the other hand, he's a superb artist and I love some of his albums to bits (especially PARIS 1919 and FEAR) so I won't be sad if he appears here.

Aren't Cale's collaborations with Nico (THE MARBLE INDEX and DESERT SHORE) proggier than his own solo work?

P.S. Late last June I suddenly saw John Cale cycling through my street. (Of course he was dressed in black and wore Velvet Underground-style sunglasses!)

Logan wrote:

No; not crazy at all. I've been meaning to get HoboSapiens.

And I really like John Cale and Terry Riley's Church of Anthrax: http://www.progreviews.com/reviews/display.php?rev=jctr-coa

Incidentally, Terry Riley would make for an interesting addition, methinks.

Good calls on both counts but John Cale more so and would fit P-R nicely.

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I think P-R is the only place for him to be considered. I'll formerly ask the Admin team to consider his inclusion.

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I think V.U. had been discussed and rejected.

"And I say no no no"

Ups, this is a line from a song of Lou Reed (from the album Berlin).

I think prog related is so wide we can put in anybody we want. I know some of his albums and like some of his work so I am not against it (the opening line was a joke). However, I will strongly support the inclusion of Lou Reed and VU in the same sub genre. Lou Reed made some awsome songs.

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