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mono
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 03:08 |
Although DT would be better with Moore, it would only be a matter of keyboards, the compositions wouldn't have evolved very differently if Kevin Moore had stayed in my opinion, Portnoy and Petrucci playing the frontman role quite well.
So I went with the dreamy 5th universe. Never wanted Ian Anderson to quit Jethro Tull, don't need Greg Lake when you got Fripp... (exagerated but true).
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Zargus
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 04:28 |
this poll will give me nightmares, i picked 2 anyway...
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Roland113
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 07:28 |
That was a no brainer for me. ELP never forming would have been a sad thing, though I'd have been interested to hear more Crimson with Greg Lake. Couldn't really care less about two and three and Genesis worked out just fine the way that it was. I think a more compelling option five would have been 'What if Steve Hackett remained in Genesis'.
With that being said, I easily chose option 4 within the allotted five seconds. While I like some of their later albums, I think Kevin Moore was the perfect balance to Portnoy and Petrucci. His lush melodies and chords really complimented the shredding the other two. I'd have enjoyed seeing more with that line up.
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 07:47 |
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Banks not getting the push.......
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The Runaway
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 08:14 |
When I found out about Peter Banks, and the fact that he left Yes, I almost cried, so guess what. Yep, I'm taking 5. Haha! Joking, it's 2 for me.
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omri
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 10:25 |
I hesitated for 2 seconds between 1 & 5 . Voted for option 5 !
The problem in option 1 is not only the lack of ELP but I realy feel Lake's leave lead KC to grow up, abandon pomposiness (sure misspeled her but you know what I mean) and helped them (him) to become a mudh better and more mature musician(s).
So option 5 where Genesis allready created most of their better albums sounds O.K. to me. The only question I have is does it means that 80's and 90's KC will never exist ? If so I choose wrong and I'm in hell.
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paulwalker71
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 11:57 |
It has to be number 5 for me It wouldn't have been 'Genesis' anymore - it would have evolved into someone rather wondrous, I feel Ahem... back in the real world
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 13:03 |
Option 5 is by far the most interesting, especially for someone who, like me, has never been a big Genesis fan. However, I am curious as to why you chose Trevor Horn to play bass, and not, for instance, Tony Levin, who would have probably been the most obvious choice.
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Epignosis
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 13:09 |
Raff wrote:
Option 5 is by far the most interesting, especially for someone who, like me, has never been a big Genesis fan. However, I am curious as to why you chose Trevor Horn to play bass, and not, for instance, Tony Levin, who would have probably been the most obvious choice.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 13:24 |
I think Gabriel would have done what he did in the real world. Solsbury Hill, Intruder ( where Phill Collins actually plays the drums ) DIY, Shock The Monkey etc etc. Wakeman would quit in disgust after the first album.
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 13:55 |
The Whistler wrote:
Why is the gun warm? Ewww.... |
#4 for me.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 14:01 |
Bj-1 wrote:
The Whistler wrote:
Why is the gun warm? Ewww.... |
#4 for me.
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I always thought 'Happiness is A Warm Gun' was not about a Gun! So I wouldn't be happy even momentarilly !!
Genesis would end up doing 'Video Killed the Radio Star' On Ice.
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White Shadow
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 15:25 |
I pick #4 because I don't like Dream Theater and wouldn't care if their history is changed. The others would have dire consequences that I don't like.
#1 doesn't work for me because even though I'm not the biggest ELP fan I'm glad they existed and I don't like the idea of Lake staying in Crimson. It might jeopardize later albums I love, specifically their 80s output.
#2 I'm not very fond of Yes but enjoy some of their albums and this option might corrupt them (specifically close to the edge, in which wakeman has important contributions as a performer).
#3 is no good because I love Jethro Tull
#5 Genesis is nothing without Tony Banks. Besides, I like Peter Gabriel's solo stuff as much as or more than Genesis in general. I again would not want to corrupt the history of Yes or especially King Crimson with that lineup. Plus, that means no "Trick of the Tail" or "Wind and Wuthering". I agree with whoever it was above that wanted to pick "What if Steve Hackett never left Genesis"
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sleeper
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 15:47 |
I went with 4 as I think its the only one that could have had a good outcome.
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Tarquin Underspoon
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 16:13 |
Pekka wrote:
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
But on a positive note, Kevin Moore is still in Dream Theater!...... |
Care to shed some light on this interesting view?  |
Personally, my two favorites albums from them are Awake and Images and Words (I also quite like When Dream and Day Unite, but the production is a joke). All 3 of those albums are drastically different and I think the quality of the compositions is just fantastic.
I even prefer Falling Into Infinity, featuring Derek Sherinian, over many of their more recent albums.
I think Rudess was a great fit for the first 2 albums they did together, but for some reason after that it's almost as if they ran out of juice and decided to just play lots and lots of notes. YES, i know this viewpoint has been exhausted by critics and fans of the band, and at this point nobody wants to hear about it, but in my opinion, it's true.
Not to say that I'm not a fan of Dream Theater. I'm a huge fan, and that's probably why I'm most eager to see what might have been if my favorite lineup had remained intact.
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J-Man
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 17:10 |
Option 5 would be pretty cool...
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mrcozdude
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 17:14 |
five i guess
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Stooge
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 19:16 |
4 seems ok, I guess, but they may not have made 2 of my favorite DT albums in that case (Metropolis 2 and 6 Degrees).
5 is interesting, but the result may have meant some great bands and albums may never have happened.
Luckily the trigger was slippery, and some crazy bird lady came by and threw bird seed on the muggers, which attracted all the pigeons in Central Park. It gave me enough time to choose option 4 and save Christmas.
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JD
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 21:46 |
Option one - No way ! Both bands worked out just fine thanks. While Gregy's vocals were great in the early KC, I think I found them more interesting without it.
Option two - As above I don't think Yes suffered from this departure over the long run
Option three - I don't think Jon's voice would compliment Ian's flute playing at all. Jon just doesn't have the folksy voice that's need for the other Anderson's style.
Option four - Really ? Dream Theatre ? They are so 90's ! BTW, What did this Kevin guy do anyway?
Option five - Now you're talking !! But I really think that (at least in my alternate universe) Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett fire all the other slackers in Genesis and hire the list you proposed. Ok, maybe they let Phil play drums on one track but he doesn't get to go whith in 5 feet of a vocal mike !!
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Jozef
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Posted: September 27 2009 at 12:16 |
Option five sounds like it would produce the most interesting results. Even though I don't like the idea of Tony Banks leaving Genesis, Rick Wakeman joining the band would be very cool.
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