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BaldFriede
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 02 2005
Location: Germany
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Points: 10266
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Posted: October 29 2010 at 13:02 |
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
And I miss Pierre tremendously ... not only was he fabulous to make Gong's music as good as it was, he also make Mike Oldfield look good on stage ... make sure you get the EXPOSED DVD for a total treat and then some ... and tears too ... because it is special!
Gong with Pip was jazz'y, with Chris was easy music ... but with Pierre it had a rock edge that fit and made the music stronger ... and yes, side 2 of YOU is the best exhibition of drumming ever done in rock music. The majority of drummers can not get off the 4 beats to even consider doing what Pierre did in there and did all the time in his sleep and then some! |
Iy is hard to believe he has been dead for 5 and a half years already..
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 BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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Plastic Dreamer
Forum Groupie
Joined: September 11 2009
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 66
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Posted: October 29 2010 at 17:30 |
I am sorry, but to all you proggers that may have missed The Who, in my opinion (and not so humble in this case) there is only one drummer that can seriously be regarded as better than the best.
Keith Moon;
QUADROPHENIA
LIVE AT LEEDS
WHOS NEXT
TOMMY
THE WHO SELL OUT
These are albums, not tracks. Check them out. I am quite sure that Mr. Peart, Mr, Portnoy and Mr Collins would agree with me.
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richardh
Prog Reviewer
Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 30282
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Posted: October 30 2010 at 03:52 |
^Keith Moon was a phenemonal drummer without any doubt and widely respected
My Generation
Baba O'Riley
Won't Get Fooled Again
I Can See For Miles
Going Mobile
nuff said
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moshkito
Forum Senior Member
Joined: January 04 2007
Location: Grok City
Status: Offline
Points: 18645
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Posted: November 01 2010 at 15:14 |
Billy Pilgrim wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Michael Giles:
21st Century Schizoid Man I Talk to the Wind Epitaph Moonchild In The Court of the Crimson King

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Giles is the man!
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You know ... the more I listen to that album the more I think that the drumming in it is exceptional and ... what really makes the album go around ... his touch and taste is impeccable ... and I am not sure that you can "teach" that at all ... you have to feel it and understand the music you are doing far better ... than just drumming or keeping time.
And this is what is missing in almost all the metronomic bands today that are considered "prog" ... and they aren't!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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moshkito
Forum Senior Member
Joined: January 04 2007
Location: Grok City
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Points: 18645
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Posted: November 01 2010 at 15:35 |
Plastic Dreamer wrote:
I am sorry, but to all you proggers that may have missed The Who, in my opinion (and not so humble in this case) there is only one drummer that can seriously be regarded as better than the best.
Keith Moon; ... |
No one is disagreeing with that. Like Pierre, Keith was also quite non-conventional which helped the music tremendously ... and the amazing thing was/is that Pierre was a master musician (see him on Mike Oldfield's EXPOSED dvd), and he made all that knowledge seem like child's play to his ability to improvise and add touch and feel where there was none, or where Portnoy would just bang the snare drum even more ... every 4th since he doesn't know any other time!
Keith showed his mastery in "Who's Next" ... and how he could make the music sound and be even better with just a conventional drummer.
The point is ... that prog and progressive music these days, is really missing out on the incredible feel and touch that these people added to the music that helped make it famous ... and we still talk about it.
I would not exactly call Keith "progressive" but he is certainly one of the very best rock drummers ever.
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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paganinio
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 07 2008
Status: Offline
Points: 1327
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Posted: November 02 2010 at 10:43 |
moshkito wrote:
Billy Pilgrim wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Michael Giles:
21st Century Schizoid Man I Talk to the Wind Epitaph Moonchild In The Court of the Crimson King

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Giles is the man!
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You know ... the more I listen to that album the more I think that the drumming in it is exceptional and ... what really makes the album go around ... his touch and taste is impeccable ... and I am not sure that you can "teach" that at all ... you have to feel it and understand the music you are doing far better ... than just drumming or keeping time.
And this is what is missing in almost all the metronomic bands today that are considered "prog" ... and they aren't! |
the drumming was certainly gonna catch the ears, because the melody line was just the same tune repeating itself over and over.
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Plastic Dreamer
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Joined: September 11 2009
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 66
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Posted: November 02 2010 at 11:07 |
To anyone interested in drummers, BBC radio 4 have just broadcast a program called "Beat it: The World of The modern drummer".
From today (021010) you can listen to it on line for up to a week. Check it out here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00vkwvc
It is pretty good and includes interviews with Phil Collins, Phil Selway etc.
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