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friso
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Topic: I'm falling for it.. Posted: January 20 2011 at 02:11 |
Everyone has them; the weak spots. Elements of progressive music that grap you instantly. If progressive music has these certain 'personal'characteristics I'm less critical towards the whole product. I'm just falling for it.
I'm interested wat makes you fall for it. I'll give an example of what musical elements make music easy for me to acces:
- jazzy drums (almost always works for me)
- bravery (doing the unexpected, daring performance)
- psychedelic moods/crazyness (exploiting artistic freedom)
What about you?
Edited by friso - January 20 2011 at 02:13
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Billy Pilgrim
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 02:35 |
for me if the lyrics have a spiritual backing to them I'm instantly intrigued.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 03:18 |
friso wrote:
Everyone has them; the weak spots. Elements of progressive music that grap you instantly. If progressive music has these certain 'personal'characteristics I'm less critical towards the whole product. I'm just falling for it.
I'm interested wat makes you fall for it. I'll give an example of what musical elements make music easy for me to acces:
- jazzy drums (almost always works for me)
- bravery (doing the unexpected, daring performance)
- psychedelic moods/crazyness (exploiting artistic freedom)
What about you? |
If you mean by 'jazzy drums' a drummer who interacts dynamically with the other musicians and whose playing becomes an inseperable part of the composition, (and doesn't just identify the underlying pulse of the music and lay down a rawk beat) then yeah bring it on baby...  In addition: Middle Eastern, North African and Eastern European scales or modes (when used sparingly) Portamento and filter effects used on synth solos Guitarists who think carefully about their parts (when not soloing) and try to enhance the song accordingly A firm grasp of when it is appropriate to play very little or precisely squat: less is moreLyrics that deal with secular subject matter e.g. real people in the real world who are denied access to a spaceship Certain instruments 'play' me: hammond organ, piano, Fender Rhodes, clavinet, Moogs (and I also love bands who cast their textural net wider by using real strings, real brass and assorted ethnic thingies from time to time A bass and drums axis that have the nous to realise they are the anchor, not the sail. (c/f some Jazz Rock mutineers) Anything post 1989
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-Radioswim-
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 04:40 |
Billy Pilgrim wrote:
for me if the lyrics have a spiritual backing to them I'm instantly intrigued. |
I'm going to steal your words, as they were pretty much exactly how I feel.
Along with the spiritual thing, if the lyrics hint in any way of brotherly love, I am... IN LOVE with it, being a brother of 5 others.
I also seem to react positively to slow guitar plucking... notely in the higher notes.
EDIT- I also get sucked in when artists take a break from the music to narrate or recite poetry to tell a story or convey emotion. It just seems to compliment music nicely. I can't help myself from getting into that sort of thing.
Edited by -Radioswim- - January 20 2011 at 04:42
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npjnpj
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 05:00 |
Two things mainly: a strong keyboard (preferably hammond organ) background and one or several crescendos involving multi-layered male-female vocal harmonies. Presses my buttons every time.
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JS19
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 05:59 |
Mellotron or Hammond
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Manuel
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 07:39 |
Jazz, blues, world or folk influences, with some very refined interplay are the things that really get me, and I fall for it easily.
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Cactus Choir
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 08:15 |
I agree about the jazzy drums - a good drummer can really boost a piece of music. Pierre van der Linden of Focus is one that comes to mind - the first five minutes of Anonymous II are really enjoyable for me mainly down to all the little fills he does and the way he drives the music along.
I also like a bit of a 60s R&B feel to the music. A lot of my favourite artists - Keith Emerson, Steve Howe, Jon Lord, Ian Anderson - did the whole seven gigs a week, slogging up and down motorways and cranking out Got My Mojo Working before moving on to prog but the influence of that style remained in their music. A New Day Yesterday by Jethro Tull is a good example of this.
The occasional Bach-style contrapuntal classical quote always goes down well too.
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Manuel
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 08:25 |
The occasional Bach-style contrapuntal classical quote always goes down well too.
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I forgot to mention the classical influence. When tastefully done, alway |
I forgot to mention the classical influence. When tastefully done, always gets to me.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 09:17 |
A piano that sounds like it hasn't been tuned lately. Like the piano on Split Enz' Dyzrhythmia.
Powerful sounding drums, which don't sound like they are there to "keep the time"
12 string guitar
Mellotron
Church organ in prog
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TheOppenheimer
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 09:31 |
when a song makes you feel something. that's enough for me.
it makes me cry, makes me think, makes me sleepy, makes me depressed, makes me get philosophical, etc.
also, i fall for the "i never heard something like this before" feeling some songs create.
ever listened to Black Lake Nidstang by Agalloch? that song is unique.
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Finnforest
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 09:34 |
piano, gothic pipe organ, operatic choirs, stirring melodies, good bass playing you can hear in the mix.....
just to name a few.. 
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cacha71
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 09:41 |
Prog folk with unusual folklore, medieval or ethnic influences. Obscure, poetic and cryptic lyrics. Changes in mood and tempo where you least expect it.
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Finnforest
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 09:44 |
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yeah, love the medieval prog folk sounds too.
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The Truth
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 10:06 |
I like pretty much all types of music but the stuff that really captivates me is really emotional.
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clarkpegasus4001
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 10:30 |
When someone plays from the heart  Tony C.
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 10:37 |
Cello, Violin, Clarinet, acoustic guitar, roaming bass lines, melodic drumming, female vocals, operatic female vocals, unique vocals, awesome drumming, quirky humour (Gong), weird sounds (avant prog), Classical references, drama, concepts, unusual instrument groupings, musical-style vocals (where each voice is a character), and I'm sure i could think of more. Let's face it, there is just too much in music out there that is good. XD
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rogerthat
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 11:06 |
It's hard to pin down a few elements that I particularly like but some may be:
1. Jazzy drums, yeah, sort of, but I am more interested in there being swing, really.
2. Dynamism in the playing. Bands without a large dynamic range can sometimes get a bit boring, though it's not hard and fast.
3. Soul influence in singing, but not of the scatty type. Um, Waters's singing on Shine On is probably a good example of what I have in mind.
4. Roaming basslines. I am a real sucker for this one.
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thehallway
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 11:09 |
The common thing here is drums.
That's because a band is only as good as its drummer (whoever said that?)
Personally I also like songs with really interesting structures with loads of different sections that keep comng, going, and returning. If I don't know where I stand with the structure then I usually can't enjoy the individual themes (unless it's an improvisation).
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lazland
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 11:13 |
Difficult to pin down, really, but generally exceptionally thoughtful music, lyrics which tell a great story, songs that tug at my heartstrings, and I'm a sucker for brilliant female vocals.
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