Most Painful Prog Vocals

I would never say I like all King Crimson or I love Gentle Giant, that wouldn't be honest, I clearly say I don't like them, but they are  a pair of talented group of musicians, doing music that is considerate great by some.

Of course there's a subjective component, but at least you should recognize when somebody is good despite your taste, that's the objectiveness you can expect from a reviewer.

Iván

It's objective to say, or at least close to objective, that a guitarist say Steve Vai is technically great. I wouldn't say that's subjective, there's no discussion about his technical abilities. If someone says that he doesn't like him, that's fine, in that case it's subjective, he might not like his technical show-off or whatever. And no one can tell this guy "hey you're stupid not liking Vai, he's simply the best guitarist ever" that's just being close-minded as well as the other way round, this guy who doesn't like Vai thus he says he's not a good guitarist (in terms of technique).

 

 

I never said that being technically great means good music, read again my post, my point was that there are musical qualities that are objective and are undeniable.

I know that unskilled musicians have made many great music (for me), you don't need to give me examples because I know well what you're talking about. I'm one that dislikes DT technical approach, and yet prefer Pink Floyd's simplicity yet complete uniqueness.

Good example I'm not a fan of  Jackson Pollock's paintings, but I have one for two reasons, first, is a good business and second, his technique is perfect, and don't tell me that technique is subjective.

In the same way, I don't like Gentle Giant, but I recognize all of them are skilled musicians and that their technique is impeccable...The subjective elements is I like, or it's good, the objective component is the technique and skills.

Don't tell me that skills are not necessary for Punk, even though is simplistic you need to be skilled in the instrument of your choice, if that wasn't so, the Sex Pistols would had recorded with Sid Vicious instead of using Steve Jones in the bass.

Iván

 

I think what lacks around here in the PA is respect for what all these bands can and have done. We are too focused on the black and white of an album...Respect the fact they have opened themselves up and shown sides we certainly cannot do as the plain old listener and fan. Appreciate the fact that it is only art and we should embrace it, because without that whatelse would we listen to?

 

Trashing a band or saying they are too technical and that makes it sound krappy......I guess its just me but I don't get that thinking. They are technical because they are stretching the limits, nobody (including the bands) say you have to like it when I can shred for 15min, and I also don't think we are asking for that either......it just happens to be what they, the artists, feel like doing or whats in their heads at the time.

 

I guess it boils down to who are we to criticize an artist with a fine tooth comb, take it for what it is and lets not over analyze it, thats when I see respect just disappears.

That's a "Reductio ad Absurdum"

I agree! but don't you think that some progressive album would be better with a Higher quality recording?.

exemple: One hour by the Concreate lake - PoS and the early Symphony X

I would appreciate those album a lot more if they would have been recorded with more quality.