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Direct Link To This Post Topic: Do you consider Bat Out Of Hell a concept album?
    Posted: February 10 2013 at 07:42
Meat Loaf's Bat Out Of Hell is not listed in PA and while I think it deserves a place here much more than many other included albums, that's another subject.

It was written by Jim Steinman following more a Broadway Musical approach rather than a typical Rock album. Its songs are all about stereotype teenage concerns and fantasies, a dark motorcycle crash, wanting sex without going any further, having sex in a car or admitting how turned on the guy is by the girl.

Do you consider it a concept album?
Personally I would not go so far, it does not really tell a story, but it is certainly a thematic album (and a great one by the way IMO!).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2013 at 08:38

Does an album need a story to be called a concept album? Thought it was enough that the tracks was thematically related.

When it comes to the "Bat Out Of Hell" album, I've only heard a couple of tracks from it, and not the whole thing, so I wouldn't know if it's a concept album or not.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2013 at 08:47
Don't let your meat loaf.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2013 at 08:50
Whether it is or isn't is no guide as to if it belongs in PA
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2013 at 09:35
I think it's a concept album, just an awful one. Way to over emote Meatloaf.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2013 at 09:54
He has no business here. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2013 at 10:51

After 35 years if it were a concept album it would be common knowledge by now... and Jim Steiman probably would have bored us rigid in the 70s telling everyone about it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2013 at 11:37
Not conceptual.

BUT A DAMN GREAT ALBUM

Iván

PS: As the older guys here know, I'm a huge fan of Meat Loaf, but always opposed to his inclusion in Prog Archives. Despite they were responsible for the invention of the term Wagnerian Rock...They play an imaginative end elaborate branch of Hard Rock band, not Prog Rock


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2013 at 11:54
Not a concept album and maybe remotely related to prog (not my part to judge), but this album surely has its merits.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2013 at 12:28
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Not conceptual.

BUT A DAMN GREAT ALBUM

Iván

PS: As the older guys here know, I'm a huge fan of Meat Loaf, but always opposed to his inclusion in Prog Archives. Despite they were responsible for the invention of the term Wagnerian Rock...They play an imaginative end elaborate branch of Hard Rock band, not Prog Rock


I completely agree with Ivan. Bat Out of Hell was the album that made me fall in love with music at 10 years old.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2013 at 13:00
I always thought the album was pretty awful to be honest.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2013 at 13:46
I am not sure I have ever listened to it all the way through!  I certainly never owned it.  Isn't it more of a Rock Opera ? 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 03:15
Speaking out of turn (Head on wall) I've always felt Meatloaf should be listed here. There are many artists on the site who have far less to do with prog than the big man.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 06:50
I never cared much for the 2nd and 3rd releases but the first one was as Prog as, say, Queen (not comparing their music, only trying to find some other band with similar level of 'progginess content' in their rock). Certainly proggier than Iron Maiden to these ears...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 07:02
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

I am not sure I have ever listened to it all the way through!  I certainly never owned it.  Isn't it more of a Rock Opera ? 
It originated from some songs for a Musical although I personally would not call it a Rock Opera. It has some dialogues between Meat and the girl (Ellen Foley in the studio version) but that's it. I guess it was Todd Rundgren's involvement as producer and player which gave it a much harder edge than what probably Steinman originally had had in mind.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 07:02
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 07:59
I've never considered BOOH to be a concept album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 08:00
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

All Progginess is relatve.
Indeed, and I find Bat Out Of Hell relatively proggier than Iron Maiden Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 08:03
Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Does an album need a story to be called a concept album? Thought it was enough that the tracks was thematically related.

Perhaps you're right, interested to know what do others think about this statement

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 08:13
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Its songs are all about stereotype teenage concerns and fantasies,
 
Dosent allmost every single awful non prog rock album. ? 
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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