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    Posted: August 30 2018 at 04:31
For me, I don't believe that Renaissance's classical orchestration would have happened had not the Moody Blues come out first with DOFP in 1967 and having a re-emergence in 1972, one year before the release of Ashes Are Burning. Possible influence or not, what's you take on Days of Future Passed, more then 50 years after it was first released?

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I love the album, some great songs (Tuesday Afternoon!) and some very cheesy orchestral sections. Not quite the orchestra/rock band merger and it's mainly songs with orchestral bits in between.
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"Aches are Burning"?  When did Renaissance write about arthritis?
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I love the album, some great songs (Tuesday Afternoon!) and some very cheesy orchestral sections. Not quite the orchestra/rock band merger and it's mainly songs with orchestral bits in between.
Exactly so. Its hardly any fusion of band + orchestra to be found and I think it would be a stronger album without those kitschy "light classical" interludes. But the actual songs are all wonderful.  
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On an emotional level I can't connect that well to most songs on this album, but I find that the whole thing is put together in a very creative and tasteful manner, particularly the orchestral interludes. Despite the changes in instrumentation and approach it feels very organic to me. One can call the orchestral sections cheesy night and day but they work well together with these songs, so I find this combination fresh and inspiring. Surely it has taught some people about what can be done with band and orchestra, and be it by enticing them to go further.
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"Aches are Burning"?  When did Renaissance write about arthritis?
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

On an emotional level I can't connect that well to most songs on this album, but I find that the whole thing is put together in a very creative and tasteful manner, particularly the orchestral interludes. Despite the changes in instrumentation and approach it feels very organic to me. One can call the orchestral sections cheesy night and day but they work well together with these songs, so I find this combination fresh and inspiring. Surely it has taught some people about what can be done with band and orchestra, and be it by enticing them to go further.
I have a similar take. The sum is greater than the parts but what a sum it is!
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I love the album, some great songs (Tuesday Afternoon!) and some very cheesy orchestral sections. Not quite the orchestra/rock band merger and it's mainly songs with orchestral bits in between.
Exactly so. Its hardly any fusion of band + orchestra to be found and I think it would be a stronger album without those kitschy "light classical" interludes. But the actual songs are all wonderful.  
I agree with you both on the lack of a fusion, but at least DOFP had orchestral sections that sounded like movements and has a type of finale. And that's more than what Renaissance did with their "orchestras".

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Also I havenīt ever liked a lot about orchestral sections, to me they sounds quite typical of the time in not very serious classical music (mean to be light music in the back of some tv serie etc.). I think those orchestral sections is the reason why I prefer Moodies next four album instead of Days, although all the songs are really great.
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I like the album, I prefer the way that The Who's Tommy (1969) was orchestrated (and better yet, the arrangements for the Atom Heart Mother suite). Keith West's Excerpt from a Teenage Opera in 1967 is interesting.
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yeah the orchestral sections to DOFP are cheesy but damn it, I love it! Tongue

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I like the album, I prefer the way that The Who's Tommy (1969) was orchestrated (and better yet, the arrangements for the Atom Heart Mother suite). Keith West's Excerpt from a Teenage Opera in 1967 is interesting.

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DoFP is one of my all-time favorites. If there is such a thing as beauty in rock music, then that album is a sterling example of it. 
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I just got Days of Future Passed a few years ago, and I do love it. Though indeed I could do without most of the orchestral bits... as well as the spoken words. I wonder how the early live versions when they played the songs that ended in the album sounded (or if they played the complete album live before or after it was released).
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It sounds very dated these days but I like it anyway. Why is it dated? Not just the orchestra but the surf guitar sounds and bouncy positive vibe of the album which doesn't seem to take the psychedelic flavor into consideration even though it had already started and even with the "the smell of grass just makes me pass" line. Still, I think it's a great album even if it sounds like the band accidentally stumbled on something new. 
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And Graham Edge's closing poem, recited by Mike Pinder! It's still startling after 50 years!

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Instead of "dated" one can also say that it bears the marks of its time very clearly and that this contributes to its interest.
I'd call an album "dated" that I think one could have enjoyed more in the past but not so much anymore in the present because what was cool then is no longer cool but rather anachronistic and boring. However I wouldn't call an album "dated" that transports a certain atmosphere and approach of a time in such a way that it can now be appreciated as a historical document or a messenger of that time, as holds for DOFP. I mean, sure, nobody would make an album like this anymore and for good reason, but still...
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I think calling some music dated is very subjective thing. Also seemed already many years to be the way to try to make people think some old music is not important, at least as important as some new music.
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Some guys in my dorm played it to death the first year in college so I did not bother with it. My favorite orchestral LPs of the time were Five Bridges and Procol Harum's attempt with an orchestra. Conquistador was quite effective.
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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

I think calling some music dated is very subjective thing. Also seemed already many years to be the way to try to make people think some old music is not important, at least as important as some new music.
I don't think its all subjective. There are some dated approaches to making music that has died out because "we" (not as in everyone in the whole world but in general) can no longer relate - the orchestral cheese in Days of Future Passed being one of them. A rock tune with a drum solo taking up most of its duration? It just doesn't happen anymore. Not even live. Such excess belongs to the era of the "rock genius". Musicians still make jazz fusion but not in the smoothest, w**kiest, cocaine-induced late 70's-early 80's kind of way. Another example can be that hardly anybody sings with intense vibrato anymore but it was fashion for decades in classical music. 
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