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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: November 06 2018 at 19:19 |
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Early on in the Prog World Cup polls, some had mentioned that Ange would have been a better choice to represent France than Magma. In the spirit of the current Yes vs King Crimson poll to see who would have been the best representative for Britain, here's a similar chance to see which band would have been the strongest representative for France.
Ange or Magma and tell us why
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Au Dela du Delire is a prog jewel. Ange influenced an entire genre within a country because they were quintessentially French, blending words of meaning, haunting musicianship and a theatrical delivery.
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Much as I do like various 70s albums by Ange, and I was into Ange before discovering Magma, Magma resonates more with me and there's much more Magma that I know and like -- I have over 20 Magma albums in my collection, and maybe only four by Ange.
I think that Kobaia is one of the most kick-ass great debut albums in "Prog" history and even if they had never created another album, for that alone Magma would get my vote, but that was followed by great after great album. For me they released so many great albums, both studio and lives. I like all of them, even the reviled by many Merci and they came back very strong in the 2000s. I have not listened to Ange's post-70s albums, but I'd be interested to compare the best of 1984's Magma - Merci with the best of Ange's 1984 album Fou! |
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Magma all day baby
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Ange!
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I really wanted to vote for Magma(who has become one of my favorite bands), but since I don't know anything at all about this Ange I didn't think it would be right.
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^ It sounds to me like you might want to check out Ange... I sure do want to do so (but haven't gotten around to it yet). It's one of the best rated bands from france, and I understand they have that theatrical vibe going on... often being compared to Genesis.
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Both of Le Cimetière des Arlequins and Au-delà du délire are up there with the very best of classic british and Italian prog rock. Dense, eerie atmosphere, uniquely eccentric and theatrical - the music's got the feel of a gothic novel or poem. Shouldn't work as well as it does for me. But only their debut comes close (I've yet to hear Guet-Apens) in quality and they are still minor league compared to Magma.
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Ange
it took me a while to get into Magma, but with Ange it was instant love
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Magma is the strongest, so I vote for them, even though Ange is more French. Quintessentially French indeed.
One of my guilty pleasures: Of the Ange albums I have heard, my favourite is not one of their 70's albums, but Moyen-Âge from 2012.
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Ange for sure
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Magma was the right choice in the first place.
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Magma +1
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The same with me.
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Really tough choice, but I went with Magma by a hair. I discovered both at about the same time: late '73 for Magma and mid '74 for Ange. I saw Ange much earlier, in July of '74 in London, and they were killer live. I didn't see Magma until traveling across the pond to see them in Verviers, Belgium in '99. They'd played NYC a few months earlier, but I couldn't go because of a critical work commitment. I was so upset that I checked out their next European tour and bought a plane ticket. On that same trip, I managed to see Ange again and they were still fabulous. I've seen Magma a few times since (including Trilogie au Trianon, all 3 nights) and twice in NYC. I have everything that both bands ever released and love them both.
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J'étais le prince sur son carrosse Ma muse pleurait aux étoiles Puis je redeviens le chien If you've never heard Ange or only a limited amount, check out one of their best, Sur la Trace des Fees (On the Trail of the Fairy - 1975). To me it represents all the best qualities of Ange and if you don't like this one, you likely won't like Ange. Ange isn't the first French band I got into (that was Pulsar) but they're the kings of quintessential French prog and remain active (24 studio albums and counting as of their 2018 release). And to answer an earlier question, if you're into symphonic prog you absolutely can't go wrong with any of the 1st 6 studio albums from Caricatures through Guet Apens. Many refer to them as the "French Genesis", but I don't hear it. To me their earliest albums remind me musically of early VDGG (mostly because of the overall dark ambience and organ sounds that are similar between Hugh Banton and Francis Decamps) but without the Peter Hammill harshness that turns many people off and the totally unique Christian Decamps on vocals. In other words, they're not the "French Anybody", they're Ange! After that there were some stylistic changes and a more modern approach and sound, but with Christian always on vocals (and his brother Francis usually on keyboards) the magic remains. Oh ya, did I mention I'm voting for Ange Edited by The.Crimson.King - November 07 2018 at 11:46 |
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Funny you should mention that. In 1974 I was living in Copenhagen. I was dating a girl from France and early in the relationship she asked me what bands I liked. I mentioned VDGG and she responded that I'd love Ange. That was my introduction to Ange and she was absolutely right.
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The.Crimson.King
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Cool. I always thought Caricatures and Le Cimitiere Des Arlequins sound like they could've been recorded in the same studio with the same engineers/producer as The Least We Can do is Wave, H to He & Pawn Hearts. After that, the Ange albums took on a brighter sound with Au Dela Du Delire, Emile, Mandrin & Guet Apens. I think all 6 Ange albums are brilliant and a great starting place for any who haven't yet ventured into French symphonic prog
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