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Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

One thing I find lacking in modern prog (not all of course, but a lot) is the influence of classical music, so that makes it different in a sense from the classic era (again, not all classic era prog had classical influences). 

A great discovery I made on this site are iamthemorning from St. Petersburg, who come (like NSRO and Karda Estra as recommended earlier) with strong classical influences, and I can well imagine they appeal to a mainly 70s oriented prog fan.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Surely I'm not somebody who normally only loves old stuff, however the North Sea Radio Orchestra make stunningly beautiful handmade music, and absolutely none of the objectons you sometimes read against  modern prog bands applies to them.


Thank you for that tip. Listening right now, love it. Best thing I've heard in a long time. Star
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^ Big Ian introduced me (and Raff) to them during our big battles of albums a couple of years ago.  I A Moon made instant fans of both of us.. and several songs from that album remain on my permenent rotation of the portable mp3 player.

It is a hard place modern prog resides in.. you have retro prog. which some absolutely love.. yet some (yes like me) would rather suffer castration and a f**king hole in the head than be subjected to listening to.. it might be prog.. but is as progressive as my left nut...  yawn.. heard it all before.. and MUCH better done..

on the flip side baby ...there is the vibrant progressive scene..  prog? perhaps.. perhaps not.. but what it is if not in sound and style is actually more true to classic 70's prog is you have a bunch of bands and artists that are out carving out their own sounds and styles.. and as has been noted many times over the last few years.. don't associate.. or care to be associated with the prog scene.  Or even aware that they might have been adopted by the prog commiunity as their own.  Their target audience ain't us.. it is the kiddies or older free thinkers...that simply don't give a f**k whether something .. or some site.. considers it prog or not.. they are just digging good music.

something..  a state of mind I can completely dig.. 


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

One thing I find lacking in modern prog (not all of course, but a lot) is the influence of classical music, so that makes it different in a sense from the classic era (again, not all classic era prog had classical influences). 

A great discovery I made on this site are iamthemorning from St. Petersburg, who come (like NSRO and Karda Estra as recommended earlier) with strong classical influences, and I can well imagine they appeal to a mainly 70s oriented prog fan.


Have you heard Charlie Cawood's new album? Marjana Semkina of iamthemorning sings on a couple (or maybe more) of tracks. Superb album, like the one before.
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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:



Have you heard Charlie Cawood's new album? Marjana Semkina of iamthemorning sings on a couple (or maybe more) of tracks. Superb album, like the one before.

No. I've got to check it out, thanks!
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yeah.. it gets a big thumbs up from me too.. .highly recommended
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Charlie Cawood isn't on this website. Some of you must be involved with online prog radio shows or something. Wink I say that because often they find out before others do about new bands and artists. The new band called the sonic prune juice has an album they want everyone to know about so what do they do? THey contact an online prog dj. Makes sense to me. :D
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Charlie Cawood isn't on this website. Some of you must be involved with online prog radio shows or something. Wink I say that because often they find out before others do about new bands and artists. The new band called the sonic prune juice has an album they want everyone to know about so what do they do? THey contact an online prog dj. Makes sense to me. :D


I tried to get Charlie in the database two years ago, when his debut album was released and I chose it as my # 1 album of the year. Maybe we can try again this year.

Anyway, I am not a prog DJ, but spent the best part of the last decade writing reviews of albums and shows, both for my blog and for a number of other sites (including this one). Then I got burned out and stopped writing, but I am still in touch with quite a few prog musicians via Facebook. However, a lot of suggestions for new music come from other friends.
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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Charlie Cawood isn't on this website. Some of you must be involved with online prog radio shows or something. Wink I say that because often they find out before others do about new bands and artists. The new band called the sonic prune juice has an album they want everyone to know about so what do they do? THey contact an online prog dj. Makes sense to me. :D


I tried to get Charlie in the database two years ago, when his debut album was released and I chose it as my # 1 album of the year. Maybe we can try again this year.

Anyway, I am not a prog DJ, but spent the best part of the last decade writing reviews of albums and shows, both for my blog and for a number of other sites (including this one). Then I got burned out and stopped writing, but I am still in touch with quite a few prog musicians via Facebook. However, a lot of suggestions for new music come from other friends.

I understand getting burned out. I got burned out on going to prog festivals. I didn't do a whole lot of reviews and stuff but I can understand it especially when normally it's not something you get paid for.
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Cawood should be on here, his latest is excellent.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Cawood should be on here, his latest is excellent.
  Absolutely!!!! I love it!
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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Charlie Cawood isn't on this website. Some of you must be involved with online prog radio shows or something. Wink I say that because often they find out before others do about new bands and artists. The new band called the sonic prune juice has an album they want everyone to know about so what do they do? THey contact an online prog dj. Makes sense to me. :D


I tried to get Charlie in the database two years ago, when his debut album was released and I chose it as my # 1 album of the year. Maybe we can try again this year.

Anyway, I am not a prog DJ, but spent the best part of the last decade writing reviews of albums and shows, both for my blog and for a number of other sites (including this one). Then I got burned out and stopped writing, but I am still in touch with quite a few prog musicians via Facebook. However, a lot of suggestions for new music come from other friends.
  I love his music!  Just saying.  Smile

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Wow, how do you guys find out about these guys? Prog facebook groups? It seems all they do on there is talk about the most obvious bands so maybe not there.
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I hear a lot of new releases by going to several of the shows that I like.  And I have no life.  Not that Charlie is new, but he was new to me.  Immediately hooked.
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I remember a time at Nearfest .. dude.. I was feeling no pain man.. and I came back into the auditoriumafter having a smoke.. and what do I see.. Raff seemingly making out with some guy..

well nearly went into old school Micky mode and was ready to throw down and deck the guy..  thankfully Raff stopped me and told me it was Patrick Forgas and was merely ..warmly thanking with a big hug and one of those Euro kisses.. for her for her killer reviews of his albums.  

don't talk to fans man.. they aint' for the most part fans of the music.. just what they like...  all they care about is what they like.. 

Meet and talk to the musos themselves. While some of you have become great personal friends.. I could count artists here as well as people we have met in real life and real time and become friends with. I believe Raff and Cawood seem to have formed some sort of connection.. and he is a bit of cutie so I can dig that.. some guys are just born lucky...talent and looks.. where I just got ..  what did I get darling?

so I promised I wouldn't deck him if he decided to kiss her. Great guy.. better music
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You got the prize, Micky.  
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

I hear a lot of new releases by going to several of the shows that I like.  And I have no life.  Not that Charlie is new, but he was new to me.  Immediately hooked.

Well, I have no life either but that's beside the point. TongueI used to kind of go out of my way looking for stuff but not anymore. If it's not on here, gnosis2000, aural moon, dprp(if I happen to stumble on it)or delicious agony chances are I won't know about it.  There might be one or two other places but really this site has most of what I need as far as researching prog goes.
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

You got the prize, Micky.  

Embarrassed amen sista... don't think I'll ever forget it.. karma is a very real thing and for once boomeranged for me...

from the spawn of Satan to an angel flying too close to the ground..

though I've still never figured out even after all these years. why I did.  What she sees in me...LOL
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Sometimes things just work out right after all.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

I hear a lot of new releases by going to several of the shows that I like.  And I have no life.  Not that Charlie is new, but he was new to me.  Immediately hooked.

Well, I have no life either but that's beside the point. TongueI used to kind of go out of my way looking for stuff but not anymore. If it's not on here, gnosis2000, aural moon, dprp(if I happen to stumble on it)or delicious agony chances are I won't know about it.  There might be one or two other places but really this site has most of what I need as far as researching prog goes.
  

Well, I had a horse in the race (or a stable of 3), so for the last year I've made the rounds of many stations, shows, chats, etc for promotion.  Met a lot of nice people along the way and discovered a lot of new music...I knew most of the heavy hitters in the arena, but there's a lot that I'd missed and am catching up on.  

I agree that this site is a great resource.  
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