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1. The Cinema Show
2. Supper's Ready
3. The Musical Box
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1. Supperīs Ready
2. Firth Of Fifth
3. Anyway
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


Three favourite Genesis songs from three different albums:-
 
1. Firth of Fifth (4.5 points)
2. Watcher of the Skies (3 points)
3. The Musical Box (2 points)
 
I wonder why 4.5 points for first place though. Why not just round it up to 5 points?



If anything it should be a straight 2,3,4.
If it were 2,3,5 then every 1st placed song getting 5 would outweigh every 2nd and 3rd placed song combined and thus make having a three song ranking system pointless.
E.g 5 x 2 = 10, 3 x 2 = 6. Even with one more vote that is only 9. So percentage wise, any 2nd placed song would need to be very much more popular than the most popular 1st placed song in order to get anywhere and that is illogical because in that case it would be most voters 1st placed song.
With 4.5 the 2nd placed songs still have a chance if there are enough votes
4.5 x 2 = 9
3 x 2 = 6
And that difference of 3 is just one vote.
3 x 3 = 9

It's all in the magic of numbers :)

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Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


Three favourite Genesis songs from three different albums:-
 
1. Firth of Fifth (4.5 points)
2. Watcher of the Skies (3 points)
3. The Musical Box (2 points)
 
I wonder why 4.5 points for first place though. Why not just round it up to 5 points?



If anything it should be a straight 2,3,4.
If it were 2,3,5 then every 1st placed song getting 5 would outweigh every 2nd and 3rd placed song combined and thus make having a three song ranking system pointless.
E.g 5 x 2 = 10, 3 x 2 = 6. Even with one more vote that is only 9. So percentage wise, any 2nd placed song would need to be very much more popular than the most popular 1st placed song in order to get anywhere and that is illogical because in that case it would be most voters 1st placed song.
With 4.5 the 2nd placed songs still have a chance if there are enough votes
4.5 x 2 = 9
3 x 2 = 6
And that difference of 3 is just one vote.
3 x 3 = 9

It's all in the magic of numbers :)


Basically agree with your reasoning. 5, 3, 2 is too much lopsided in favor of #1s.
4, 3, 2 - I will consider it if more posters strongly vouch for this one... but in my humble opinion, 4.5 is a bit better, because two #1 votes shouldn't be outweighed by three #2 votes. Current point system, with 4.5 figure, seems like a sweet spot. But as I said, I'm open to discuss it; changing the Excel sheet takes a second or two.
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^^ Thanks for explaining your reasoning. It's your poll so I'll go along with whatever points system you think works best. Smile
 


Edited by Psychedelic Paul - February 20 2020 at 07:32
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Exactly, I fully agree: "4.5 is a bit better, because two #1 votes shouldn't be outweighed by three #2 votes."
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1. Supper's Ready
2. Firth of Fifth
3. Duke's Travels/Duke's End
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1- Epping Forest
2- Can Utility
3- Dance On A Volcano

 
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

1- Epping Forest
2- Can Utility
3- Dance On A Volcano

 


Wow! We should never disuss Genesis music again.
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1. Supper's Ready
2. Visions of Angels
3. Mad Man Moon
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1. Supper's Ready
2. The Musical Box
3. Dance On A Volcano
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25 votes in. Let's get some more

Edited by thief - February 20 2020 at 08:43
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Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

1- Epping Forest
2- Can Utility
3- Dance On A Volcano

 


Wow! We should never disuss Genesis music again.
 

yup, your tastes are atrociousTongueLOL
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

1- Epping Forest
2- Can Utility
3- Dance On A Volcano

 


Wow! We should never disuss Genesis music again.
 

yup, your tastes are atrociousTongueLOL




Edited by LAM-SGC - February 20 2020 at 09:38
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1. Supper's Ready
2. Firth of Fifth
3. Carpet Crawlers

#1 is #1 song in the history of music. #2 has the best piano introduction and best guitar solo in prog history, and #3 is so good, no matter if sung by Gabriel, Collins, or Ray Wilson!
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Originally posted by judahbenkenobi judahbenkenobi wrote:

1. Supper's Ready
2. Firth of Fifth
3. Carpet Crawlers

#1 is #1 song in the history of music. #2 has the best piano introduction and best guitar solo in prog history, and #3 is so good, no matter if sung by Gabriel, Collins, or Ray Wilson!
 
The Prog Gods forbid any of those classic Genesis songs should be sung by Ray Wilson. LOL
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by judahbenkenobi judahbenkenobi wrote:

1. Supper's Ready
2. Firth of Fifth
3. Carpet Crawlers

#1 is #1 song in the history of music. #2 has the best piano introduction and best guitar solo in prog history, and #3 is so good, no matter if sung by Gabriel, Collins, or Ray Wilson!
 
The Prog Gods forbid any of those classic Genesis songs should be sung by Ray Wilson. LOL


I beg to differ
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Originally posted by thief thief wrote:

My vote:
01. Supper's Ready (4.5 points)
02. The Cinema Show (3 points)
03. Firth of Fifth (2 points)
Count me in. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Originally posted by thief thief wrote:

My vote:
01. Supper's Ready (4.5 points)
02. The Cinema Show (3 points)
03. Firth of Fifth (2 points)
Count me in. Thumbs Up

So it means you double down on this vote? Smile
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1. Supper's Ready
2. The Cinema Show
3. The Musical Box
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